so-by taking away all of the awful pitchers so far…we are still at a 4.23 ERA? I see nothing comforting about that statement…in fact- it is even scarier. if you had said- remove these 5 pitchers and we are at 3.25…then I would say- OK- there is some hope.

But take away the bottom half of the staff and we are still average….yikes.

pitchers making 10 million plus with 4.50 era’s is unacceptable….these pitchers aren’t being paid to be marginal- they are being paid because they are expected to be better than the average pitcher

and Rivera’s ERA shouldn’t even be over 2.00…and right now it is around 4. He has not been lights out…heck- he hasn;t really been good yet… and his stats clearly reflect that. For an effective closer in 2005- see Joe Nathan. Mo- its time to learn a new pitch..everyone knows what is coming.

I still can’t see how Gordon is not #6 on your list. He has been awful and now he can;t even be trusted.

Pavano’s ERA is over 4.00 as well…and yet I said he was decent. A 4+ ERA is not acceptable….

So of course Moose throws a complete game shutout…one small step for Moose…..ome giant leap for Moose-kind

Hey, I’m just going with the stats.

Whoa…..let’s not get carried away here….

5 pitchers stink….I beg to differ:

don’t forget “longball” Gordon and the fact that Rivera has been marginal at best…3 saves, and just as many blown ones. So that is 7 who have “stunk”.

which leaves-
Moose- inconsistent
Big Unit- very un-unit like- not dominating like he we expect..and has been injured twice already
Quantrill- please- how many runners has he inherited and actually held?
Sturtze- disappointing…and now hurt
Stanton? where have you gone Stanton of 2000?

so- we are left with Carl Pavano….who has been decent at best…but not the Pavano 2004 (which agree may have been a fluke)

The Yankee Pitching stinks- not 5 of 12…but 10 of 12.

Stinks with a capital “S”