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	<description>Holy Cow! We never take cannoli from a huckleberry.</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2005/07/17/july-17th-the-red-sox/comment-page-1/#comment-1408</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That extra one-third of an inning translates into 54 less BP innings over a 162 game schedule. So, to me, six-and-a-third is a low number. And right now this team is using the BP too much.

I really worry about the workload Torre will inflict on Gordon &amp; MO from now on. He needs to trust a couple of guys for a few batters. Other than Sturtze, maybe Proctor, who, with his stuff, should be able to get two outs as a bridge to Gordon. If Gordon has to come into the game in the seventh too many times, he&#039;ll be useless in late September on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Don');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_1408','Don');" /></div><span id="co_1408"><p>That extra one-third of an inning translates into 54 less BP innings over a 162 game schedule. So, to me, six-and-a-third is a low number. And right now this team is using the BP too much.</p>
<p>I really worry about the workload Torre will inflict on Gordon &#038; MO from now on. He needs to trust a couple of guys for a few batters. Other than Sturtze, maybe Proctor, who, with his stuff, should be able to get two outs as a bridge to Gordon. If Gordon has to come into the game in the seventh too many times, he&#8217;ll be useless in late September on.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**I&#039;m not talking about complete games, Raf, didn&#039;t even mention them. But six-and-a-third is gonna kill the pen.**

But the only way you&#039;re not going to use the pen is if the pitching staff throws a bunch of CG&#039;s.

In this day and age, with mix and match bullpens, all a pitcher needs to do is go 6 1/3; maybe you go L/R matchups to finish the inning, 8th goes to the setup, 9th to the closer.

When I get the time, I&#039;ll look at the numbers (IP broken down by SP &amp; RP) myself.

1990 Reds
1996 Yanks
1997 Orioles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_1407','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_1407"><p>**I&#8217;m not talking about complete games, Raf, didn&#8217;t even mention them. But six-and-a-third is gonna kill the pen.**</p>
<p>But the only way you&#8217;re not going to use the pen is if the pitching staff throws a bunch of CG&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In this day and age, with mix and match bullpens, all a pitcher needs to do is go 6 1/3; maybe you go L/R matchups to finish the inning, 8th goes to the setup, 9th to the closer.</p>
<p>When I get the time, I&#8217;ll look at the numbers (IP broken down by SP &#038; RP) myself.</p>
<p>1990 Reds<br />
1996 Yanks<br />
1997 Orioles</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, if you look at the top 20 SP from 2004, SP only, according to RSAA, and look at their IP/GS ratios, on average, it&#039;s 6 and 2/3rds per start.
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that most pitchers, even the very good ones, on average, give you just about 6 IP per GS.  Let me look into that.
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not talking about complete games, Raf, didn&#039;t even mention them. But six-and-a-third is gonna kill the pen.
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how many times during this series was Ortiz brushed back, or made to eat dirt? (:
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not A-Rod&#039;s team. But, he is performing and playing well and it&#039;s great to see. That HR off Schilling was very, very sweet.
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**Problem is, too many starters pitching too few innings, equalling bullpen burnout.**

Don&#039;t think it&#039;s that big a deal in this day and age.  During the Yanks&#039; current run, there haven&#039;t been that many CG&#039;s overall.
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<p>Don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that big a deal in this day and age.  During the Yanks&#8217; current run, there haven&#8217;t been that many CG&#8217;s overall.</p>
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		<title>By: philly phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>philly phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-Rod was moved to third to please the team captain. There is no way you can move Jeter out of SS, and hence A-Rod goes to third.

And btw....Tejada, not Jeter, is the best SS in the majors.
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<p>And btw&#8230;.Tejada, not Jeter, is the best SS in the majors.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is, too many starters pitching too few innings, equalling bullpen burnout.
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