Sliced Giambi
Thanks to the Baseball Musings Day by Day Database, I was able to look up some numbers on Jason Giambi this morning.
The numbers that are shown are Batting Average/On Base Average/Slugging Percentage.
In his first 27 games of this season, Giambi went .195/.386/.325. Then, he had that meeting with Torre and Cashman where they discussed sending him to the minors. In his next 59 games, Giambi went .326/.471/.652. This brings us up to August 1st, which is the day that the news on Rafael Palmeiro broke. Since that date, in 14 games, Giambi has gone .195/.421/.366. Let us stack these numbers up:
.195/.386/.325
.326/.471/.652
.195/.421/.366
Am I the only one who sees an eerie pattern here?
OK, granted, we’re just talking about 14 games here since August 1st. But, what if Giambi continues to slump for the next two weeks or so? Would it not be fair then to question what happened here?
As a Yankees fan, I hope Jason starts hitting away again, and soon, and then this all becomes moot.
Fascinating numbers, confirming what we’ve all witnessed it. Since it’s human nature to try and find patterns and explanations for patterns, and thought the same accusatory things. Naturally it could just be coincidence.
By the way, glad your traffic is up, this is a super site.
Yet, how has Giambi’s slump compared with the Yankees’ seeming inability to score runs right now? Hasn’t the whole team been batting beneath average this month? It could be selective memory, but I don’t recall more than once or twice where they’ve scored even six runs (before last night)!
Streaks/slumps happen
anyone else think his OBP is scary, especially when he’s hitting .195??? Damn that kid has some kind of eye.
//Streaks/slumps happen//
But, it’s the timing here that is interesting.
Check Giambi’s career August numbers with the Yanks. Pretty bad.
//Streaks/slumps happen//
But, it’s the timing here that is interesting.
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Well, according to ESPN’s 3 year average, Giambi’s .215/.403/.414
WEll, in theory, isn’t the time frames arbitrary?
Using the same site, and some different time frames:
07/15 – 07/23: .345/.472/.966
07/24 – 07/31: .278/.567/.778
08/01 – 08/07: .350/.536/.700
08/08 – 08/16: .053/.280/.053
So he’s really sucked since the 8th.
I’m not saying that he did or didn’t do anything, just that picking and choosing time frames can always be used to make a case for anything.
I really do know English.
The first line should be, “aren’t time frames arbitrary?”
Maybe it just takes a week for that last drop of juice to dry up? {wink}
Speaking of being discovered, is it just me, or did the furor over Palmeiro seem relatively minor? I mean, he’s a decently big name or whatever, but I didn’t hear too much past the first couple of days of “is he still Hall-worthy?” stuff that came up
From discussion on Mike and the Angry Puppy, they feel it will be a long road for the HoF for Palmeiro. We’ll se next year, I believe, with Mark McGwire-ed.
Well, maybe it’s just me, but it just seemed like Giambi’s use was proclaimed to be THE END OF THE WORLD…whereas Palmeiro’s kind of died down quickly. Perhaps Giambi’s was worst because he was the first that was exposed, while Palmeiro had about 10 or so no-names to cushion the blow…but Giambi’s was never TRULY proven, was it? Yes, I know that there is no doubt about it, but Palmeiro’s was proven from testing and didn’t seem to be as major as Giambi’s leaked testimony.
Well WRT Giambi’s use, that’s the price you pay when you play in NY; the attention.
FWIW, as of today, I feel Palmiero has had a HoF career.
I agree, Raf. I think that Palmeiro’s case was not as hyped due to the fact most teams he has played for were terrible, or average. Giambi’s case fits in nicely with playoff and World Series appearances. The A’s were a bashing team, led by a juiced Giambi, and for the first two years as Yankee, so were they. It’s hard for fans to swallow teams being eliminated from the playoffs on the back on a steriod-induced performance like Giambi (circa. 2003 ALCS, when he jacked two bombs off Pedro to seal the deal against the Red Sox).
Also, I think there is something to be said for the number of players between the two…it’s almost like the press was on the prowl when Giambi came clean (well, sort of), and were looking to hang anyone they could come across. Palmeiro, I think got quite a different reaction because we are all so sick of the speculation and rumors surroundin who is and who is not on the steriods.
Quite frankly, I’m so tired of hearing about it, I could go the rest of my life without ever hearing the words test results, testing procedure, players union, or steroids in baseball again!