Flash To Flushing?
Posted by Steve L. on October 14th, 2005 · Comments (10)
Julian Garcia of the Daily News thinks it can happen.
I say, let him go. Other than Doug Jones and The Eck, and maybe Jose Mesa, how many recent RH closers were any good at age 38?
CAREER
AGE >= 38
SAVES SV
1 Hoyt Wilhelm 162
2 Dennis Eckersley 151
3 Doug Jones 86
4 Ellis Kinder 69
5 Roy Face 53
6 Jack Quinn 49
T7 Don McMahon 48
T7 Gene Garber 48
9 Woodie Fryman 47
10 Jose Mesa 43
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Playing with my new toy
My feeling is, offer him a fair contract. Don’t lowball him but don’t pay him what the Mets might be willing to pay him. Be fair with him, let him weigh the pros and then move on either with him or without him. I don’t think just saying thanks and letting him walk is the right plan. He’s been damn good for the Yanks so they owe him the courtest of a legitimate contract offer.
SL, just now shaking the f*** baseball attitude that comes over me for a few days after the Yankees lose in the playoffs.
Thanks for the great site this season, as I’m sure it will be this offseason, and next season, etc.
Raf – set it to post 1973 and use RSAA instead of saves.
Jason – thanks. Took me a week to get back into it too.
Raf – set it to post 1973 and use RSAA instead of saves.
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CAREER
1973-2005
AGE >= 38
RSAA RSAA
1 Randy Johnson 118
2 Phil Niekro 90
3 Roger Clemens 66
4 Nolan Ryan 65
5 Dennis Martinez 46
T6 Jamie Moyer 43
T6 Tom Seaver 43
T6 Kevin Brown 43
T6 Doug Jones 43
10 Gaylord Perry 42
SAVES SV
1 Dennis Eckersley 151
2 Doug Jones 86
3 Gene Garber 48
4 Woodie Fryman 47
5 Jose Mesa 43
6 Ron Reed 42
7 Rick Aguilera 29
8 John Franco 27
9 Kent Tekulve 26
10 Rollie Fingers 17
I love the SBE (:
I want him back. I want B.J. Ryan AND him to do a dual setup role, pitching both in some games. I want 2 dominant setup man for our dominant closer. I want Sauerbeck and I want Small back with Wright. And that’s our pen.
Raf – set it to post 1973 and use RSAA, instead of saves, and make it >= 40 GF and RHP.
You can’t blame him for wanting to close. How many times in modern baseball does a closer come on before the 9th or with runners on base? Or in the 8th or 9th inning of a close game that your team is trailing? It’s probably a lot better role in a lot of ways than the constantly shifting set-up man job. That said, I’d like to hang on to the guy, if we can get BJ Ryan we’d have a hell of a pen.
I gotta think the Red Sox make a run at Gordon as well. Timlin isn’t that good and he’s actually older than Gordon.
Raf – set it to post 1973 and use RSAA, instead of saves, and make it >= 40 GF and RHP.
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CAREER
1973-2005
RIGHT HANDED PITCHERS
AGE >= 38
GAMES FINISHED >= 40
RSAA RSAA GF
1 Doug Jones 43 240
2 Ron Reed 27 121
3 Kent Tekulve 24 169
4 Orlando Pena 19 54
5 Gene Garber 17 122
6 Larry Andersen 16 61
7 Goose Gossage 8 62
8 Jose Mesa 7 65
9 Dennis Eckersley 4 252
10 Lindy McDaniel 2 40
Raf – set it to post 1973 and use RSAA, instead of saves, and make it >= 40 GF and RHP.
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CAREER
1973-2005
RIGHT HANDED PITCHERS
AGE >= 38
GAMES FINISHED >= 40
RSAA RSAA GF
1 Doug Jones 43 240
2 Ron Reed 27 121
3 Kent Tekulve 24 169
4 Orlando Pena 19 54
5 Gene Garber 17 122
6 Larry Andersen 16 61
7 Goose Gossage 8 62
8 Jose Mesa 7 65
9 Dennis Eckersley 4 252
10 Lindy McDaniel 2 40