• Damon On Arroyo

    Posted by on March 21st, 2006 · Comments (12)

    From the Hartford Courant -

    “I’m really upset for Bronson,” Damon said. “He should be able to become a free agent after this year, re-do his contract. This is what they were afraid of – his agent was right.”

    Hey, Johnny, I want to like you a lot this year, and the seasons to come. But, first, for that to happen, you have to let the Red Sox thing go. You’re a Yankee. Only worry about the Yankees. If Boston F’s-up, it’s a good thing – for the Yankees, and you.

    In the words of Brad Hamilton, “Learn it. Know it. Live it.”

    Comments on Damon On Arroyo

    1. baileywalk
      March 21st, 2006 | 10:22 am

      Steve, it’s pretty hard not to talk about the Red Sox if reporters keep asking you about them. If Bernie had signed with the Sox, don’t you think he’d be talking about the Yankees every day?

      But Boston didn’t eff up here. They dumped Arroyo, who wasn’t making the rotation, for an inexpensive, decent outfielder who’s only 24 and will probably be taking over for the oft-injured Trot Nixon in a year.

      The reason Damon is commenting on this is that it shows what utter SCUMBAGS the Red Sox’s front office are. They completely played Arroyo, using his desire to stay with the team against him. His agent told him not to sign a multi-year deal, because it would make him more attractive to other teams, but he did anyway, saying he wanted to stay with the Sox. So what do they do? Exactly what everyone but Arroyo knew they would — they traded him. He looks like the ultimate sucker. I don’t know why anyone would want to play for that organization, its front office or its fans.

    2. Raf
      March 21st, 2006 | 10:37 am

      His agent should’ve told him to add a “no-trade” clause.

    3. baileywalk
      March 21st, 2006 | 11:43 am

      Players like Arroyo don’t get no-trade clauses. (Unless maybe if they’re on the Yankees, who give them to everyone.)

    4. Shaun P.
      March 21st, 2006 | 11:45 am

      Arroyo’s agent actually told him to not sign the contract, fearing exactly this situation. I think Arroyo knew what he was getting into, but did it anyway. His choice, now he lives with the consequences.

      End result – I don’t think the Sox suckered Arroyo at all. This is a business, and in the business of baseball, the only loyalty should be to winning. Sadly, this deal gives the Sox a better chance of winning, so I can see why they made it.

      Let’s be honest – if yesterday the Reds had offered Wily Mo Pena to the Yanks for Bernie Williams, Cashman had damn well better say yes. I love Bernie as much as anyone, but I love the Yankees more. And winning trumps loyalty every time.

    5. baileywalk
      March 21st, 2006 | 1:43 pm

      Shaun, the Yankees brought Bernie back purely out of sentimentality and loyalty. There’s no way in hell they would have traded him for Pena. It might make baseball sense, but bringing Bernie back at all doesn’t make baseball sense. It would not have happened.

      The Red Sox most certainly DID sucker Arroyo. As I previously stated, his agent told him not to sign the deal. He did it anyway, obviously thinking the team would keep him around because of the loyalty he was showing them. That makes Bronson an idiot, but I’m sure Theo made exactly those type of overtures. This IS a business, but it doesn’t mean an organization can’t look bad while partaking in that business.

      From a Yankee standpoint, the good thing about Pena is that he strikes out every three at-bats and his career on-base is .303. One of the reasons the Yankees got Myers was to face Ortiz. Maybe the Sox wanted Pena to hit against RJ.

    6. JeremyM
      March 21st, 2006 | 4:49 pm

      Well, truth be told they will have a hard time getting anyone else to take a “hometown discount” down the road, and chances are that player will be better than Arroyo. So in the end, it’s the Sox that lose on this one.

    7. Athos333
      March 21st, 2006 | 5:54 pm

      Methinks the Yanks just gained an easy out against the Sox… wouldn’t know it, though, based on all of the positive press Pena’s getting…

    8. Raf
      March 21st, 2006 | 10:33 pm

      Methinks the Yanks just gained an easy out against the Sox… wouldn’t know it, though, based on all of the positive press Pena’s getting…
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      Because the Sox pulled a fast one. There is no other way to put it. They got a young power hitting OF, a potential star. To get this, they gave up a spare part, a pitcher who may have started the season in the pen.

      A deal like this presents itself, you have to make it, before the guys in Cincy come to their senses & change their mind.

      Something like this makes me wonder what the hell are they thinking out there?

    9. March 21st, 2006 | 10:51 pm

      Wily Mo Pena is a potential star? Really?

    10. Raf
      March 21st, 2006 | 11:19 pm

      Wily Mo Pena is a potential star? Really?
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      http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/wily-mo-pena.shtml

      He’s young, and a good number of his hits are extra base hits.

      He may learn pitch selection, he may not, but at 23 years old, I’d be willing to take my chances.

    11. March 22nd, 2006 | 9:47 am

      Then you could be waiting 5 years for something that might never happen.

    12. Raf
      March 22nd, 2006 | 2:02 pm

      Then you could be waiting 5 years for something that might never happen.
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      That’s the chance you take. You think the Twins or the M’s wouldn’t mind having David Ortiz? What about the Yanks and Jay Buhner? Rangers or White Sox could’ve used Sosa when he finally learned not to swing at every pitch in the strike zone.

      Do you think Cano will improve? Maybe, maybe not, but the potential is there. It’s the same with Pena.

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