• Chacon For Wilson

    Posted by on July 31st, 2006 · Comments (13)

    From ESPN -

    The Yankees traded pitcher Shawn Chacon to the Pirates for infielder Craig Wilson, ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney reported.

    Chacon is 5-3 with a 7.00 ERA in 17 games with the Yankees.

    Wilson is batting .267 with 13 homers and 41 RBI in 85 games with the Pirates.

    This is what I wrote about Wilson on May 12th:

    Wilson is not a star – but, he’s a useful player on the whole. Actually, against LHP he bats like a star – for what it’s worth.

    He’s currently playing on a one-year deal that pays less than $4 million – so, he’s cheap. Also, he can play a little 1B if needed there too.

    Wilson will be 30-years-old at the end of the year. So, it’s not like he’s going to be someone to build around.

    Nothing about Wilson has changed since I wrote that in May.

    The question is: How will Wilson be used in New York? And, who leaves the team to make room for him?

    I have to think Wilson will be used as a 1B when Giambi is a DH. So, what does this mean for Andy Phillips? He cannot be sent to the minors – so, do the Yankees just let Andy go? If yes, he will be missed in the clubhouse – the other players seem to love him.

    Or, does this mean that someone like Bubba Crosby or Aaron Guiel is to leave the team? One of them was probably going anyway when Abreu joins the team. Does Wilson mean that they’re both gone?

    At the least, in terms of talent and contract, getting Wilson for Chacon is a steal – as Chacon was not helping the Yankees now.

    It will be interesting to see how Torre will use Wilson and how Cashman handles the roster.

    Comments on Chacon For Wilson

    1. MJ
      July 31st, 2006 | 4:42 pm

      I don’t think much of Andy Phillips’ bat but his glove isn’t too bad. Are they Yankees reverting back to the 2004-2005 philosophy that fatsos with no gloves are the best way to make the playoffs and whatever happens after that be damned?

    2. July 31st, 2006 | 4:46 pm

      Steve, it looks like Guiel has options and will be sent down to AAA. I think (key word) Phillips stays on and Green will go once Cano comes back but that the first guy to go is Bubba.

    3. July 31st, 2006 | 4:47 pm

      Is it possible that by trading Chacon he gets to leave NY w/dignity, since someone had to go from the pitching group anyway? Then again, TJ Beam will surely be sent down. Will Ponson go to the pen? He refused in St Louis which is why they DFA’d him. I’d keep Bubba and thank Aaron Guiel but let him move on. It’s tough when you like the guys and the chemistry and then this stuff happens. However, we need to put team first.

    4. July 31st, 2006 | 4:49 pm

      Here’s an update from Pete A.’s LoHud:
      http://www.lohud.com/blogs/lohudyankees.html
      “UPDATE: Aaron Guiel has been optioned to Columbus. Sidney Ponson has agreed to pitch out of the bullpen as the long reliever. Cashman says that Andy Phillips “definitely has a place on this team” and they will announce a move tomorrow.”

    5. MJ
      July 31st, 2006 | 4:53 pm

      James, let me know if I got this straight:

      C: Posada, Fasano
      INF: Giambi, Wilson, Phillips, Jeter, Cano, Cairo, Rodriguez
      OF: Damon, Cabrera, Williams, Crosby, Abreu

      SP: RJ, Moose, Wang, Wright, Lidle
      RP: Mo, Farns, Proctor, Myers, Villone, Beam

      So if/when Matsui and Sheffield come back, Bubba and Phillips depart? I’m not sure I like the lack of flexibility in that roster. 6 OF is just too many to carry.

    6. MJ
      July 31st, 2006 | 4:55 pm

      Ok, in light of your update then Ponson over Beam in the bullpen (which seems like a disgusting choice of fat, drunken, no-talent hack vs. young arm). But we still don’t have an answer to the 6 OF’ers the Yanks will be carrying if/when Matsui and Sheffield arrive on 9/1/06.

    7. dave
      July 31st, 2006 | 5:00 pm

      6 outfielders in september won’t be a problem with the expanded rosters. Plus, in the playoffs you don’t carry as many pitchers so there are extra position slots.

    8. July 31st, 2006 | 5:03 pm

      Dave makes an excellent point. I had almost forgotten about the roster expansion.

      Also, I don’t think that Ponson will do well, even in a long relief role and that he will eventually be cut.

    9. MJ
      July 31st, 2006 | 5:08 pm

      In which case, James, why not just stick with Beam and send Ponson onto his next bender? Do we really need to watch him fizzle even once when we all know it’s going to happen?

    10. JohnnyC
      July 31st, 2006 | 5:11 pm

      Well, we were able to spin off Chacon, maybe Ponson could be part of a minor waiver deal in August? Crazy but one can dream. Also, if Bubba is DFA’d, think Girardi was sincere in his interest?

    11. July 31st, 2006 | 7:19 pm

      MJ, you’re preaching to the converted! I would rather have Beam than Ponson as well but it looks like the Yankees have other ideas at the moment. I really don’t know why…but it is what it is…and after the two moves Cashman pulled off in the last 24 hours, he’s got me beat in terms of tactical strategy ;)

    12. jonm
      July 31st, 2006 | 9:46 pm

      “Clemens, of course, is the name that won’t go away. Friends of the Rocket insist he’s sorry that he chose the Astros over the Red Sox.

      After finally getting some run support yesterday, the bullpen blew Clemens’ lead, leaving him with a 2-4 record. The Astros, meanwhile, are seven games under .500 and six games out of the wild-card race.

      Clemens would love to be dealt to the Red Sox, but doesn’t want to antagonize his hometown by asking for a trade. Similarly, owner Drayon McLane, having won the furious bidding war for Clemens two months ago, doesn’t want to alienate Astros fans by dealing Clemens.

      If Clemens could make a trade seem like the Astros’ idea, he’d be all for it. And if the Astros got cover from Clemens and could say that a deal was made at Clemens’ request, they’d make it.

      But since neither side is going to accommodate the other, Clemens is stuck.”

      This is from today’s Providence Journal and is off-topic, but it just infuriates me. The Yankees played along with Clemens bogus “retirement” in 2003. They honored him and the fans repeatedly cheered him (despite the fact that he played worse for the Yankees than any of his other teams). Since that time, he has played three seasons with Houston at a much higher level than any of his Yankee seasons and spurned the Yankees both in 2005 and 2006. Now, he privately says that he wishes that he had signed with the Red Sox, the Yankees’ chief AL rival, this year.

      Clemens should never be invited to a Yankee old-timers day and the Yankees should cut him off completely. If he ever shows his face in Yankee Stadium again, he should be booed as no “Yankee” has ever been booed before.

    13. JohnnyC
      July 31st, 2006 | 11:04 pm

      jon, that’s from the Providence Journal. Be wary of the source. They certainly don’t know that Clemens is sorry he chose the Astros over the Red Sox. It’s just another convenient fiction cooked up by yet another Red Sox rag for their deluded fan base. That said, I think Clemens duped and screwed us over, taking Pettitte with him (by feeding him the BS about playing at home, blah, blah, blah). I only hope Pettitte saw the light when Clemens scored an $18 million payday in 2005, after trying to convince everyone that playing for the Astros was akin to doing charity work or building hospitals in the jungles of Sumatra. Yeah, I don’t care to ever see him in Yankee Stadium or pinstripes again.

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