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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno why Wilson wasn&#039;t out there in LF either; I guess Torre sees him as a strict platoon guy?


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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really loved Chac last year and was hoping the magic could carry into 2006.  Unfortunately it was not to be.  Whatever it was about his performance last year, wherever it came from, we should all be thankful and remember him.  He was a great Yankee in 2005.
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		<title>By: carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is kinda off-topic, but I just saw this at Baseball Musings and wanted to share:

&quot;[In the Astros-Pirates game:]  Shawn Chacon started and lasted 1 2/3 innings, giving up seven runs and three homers, including one to Roy Oswalt. It&#039;s Roy&#039;s first home run as a major leaguer. His career slugging percentage is lower than his OBA, and his OBA isn&#039;t very high.&quot;

http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/016591.php

Poor Chacon - but that Wilson trade was brilliant.
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<p>&#8220;[In the Astros-Pirates game:]  Shawn Chacon started and lasted 1 2/3 innings, giving up seven runs and three homers, including one to Roy Oswalt. It&#8217;s Roy&#8217;s first home run as a major leaguer. His career slugging percentage is lower than his OBA, and his OBA isn&#8217;t very high.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/016591.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/016591.php</a></p>
<p>Poor Chacon &#8211; but that Wilson trade was brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree Athos. Hopefully Damon will be OK to start and they would only have to use Bubba as a defensive replacement. But even if Bubba needed to start some games, with Cano back they really shouldn&#039;t have to worry about having him in the lineup (Melky seems to thrive in the lead off spot too, so they might not even miss Damon&#039;s bat all that much). Why bring Thompson up now where he&#039;ll likely be sitting the bench. Let him get his ABs at Colombus. In less than a month the rosters will expand and Kevin can come up then.
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		<title>By: Athos333</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athos333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Steve, but your comment regarding Bubba Crosby was completely out of line...yes, Ponson needs a bus to Columbus but hopefully they&#039;ll keep Bubba away from a Yankee at bat and bring Kevin Thompson back to where he belongs...
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting here smiling, Bailey, because I was real close to dropping a few anti-Farns lines in there.

You know me pretty well, buddy.
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<p>You know me pretty well, buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the strength of Bernie&#039;s arm (or lack thereof) can anyone tell me why in the world Torre would play a &quot;no doubles&quot; outfield defense in the 9th? That Texas Leaguer should have scored Anderson as it was, if not for COra&#039;s red light. Does Torre seriously think Bernie could have made any sort of play on a ball to deep centerfield?
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		<title>By: JohnnyC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Papelbon has already come back down, bailey. He leads the AL in blown saves since June 1st. All five of his BS in 2+ months...works out to about 12 BS in a full season. That&#039;s about his level really once the league has seen him a couple of times.
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		<title>By: baileywalk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you mentioned Villone, Steve.  Getting Villone is the off-season move no one talks about.  Where would this bullpen be without him?  Despite not being &quot;trusted&quot; by Torre for months, Villone is putting together a career year, and though everyone talks about the overuse of Proctor, he&#039;s thrown a ton of innings and done nothing but come back and ask for more.  This guy really deserves more credit than he gets.  He comes out of that &#039;pen a little wild, but he gets the job done.  He was a huge pickup for the team.

I&#039;m glad MJ didn&#039;t take Farnsworth to task today.  My heart broke a little for the big man last night.  After being untouchable for over a month, he got a little dumb and a little unlucky.  He really should have been out of that inning.  That little roller by Dye was a poor excuse for a hit (it was really A-Rod&#039;s ball, but he backed off for Farns).  That home run to Crede was bad, but that three-two slider to Konerko was worse.  He cannot throw sliders in that count, and he can&#039;t throw sliders EVER to Iguchi, who can&#039;t hit a good fastball.

Joe also came up short here.  After Dye gets that grounder, why not walk Crede and then have Myers, who was warming up, pitching to A.J.?  You have two outs and Mo as insurance if anything goes bad (or if Ozzie sends up a pinch-hitter).  Instead he lets Farnsworth, who&#039;s thrown a lot of pitches, pitch to a guy who, as annoying as he is, is a very good clutch hitter, and this year is a legit home run hitter.  It didn&#039;t make any sense to me.

Torre seemed utterly disgusted with Farns after the game.  But, hey, over the last few days Papelbon, Mo, Zumaya and Izzy all gave up home runs.  No one is perfect.

It&#039;s once again scary how Johnson can go from no-one-can-touch-him to he-can&#039;t-get-anyone-out.  Once again the umpire went nuts (his strikezone suddenly shrunk after RJ gave up that one hit).  I think it&#039;s time to start to think of RJ as they think of Wright: once he gets to the seventh inning, you have to go batter by batter.  RJ loses his bite quickly these days.

What is it with Mo and &quot;sox&quot; teams?  First it was the Red Sox, and now it&#039;s the White Sox.  Mo doesn&#039;t look comfortable pitching against them.  This is three games in a row where he was shaky against this team.

And finally -- please, for the love of God, keep Bernie out of centerfield.  I could not believe he let that ball drop in front of him in the ninth.  It was an easy out.  He could easily have lost the game for them right there.

And what is WRONG with Torre?  He says he wants to play Melky in all three outfield positions next year, but he won&#039;t put Melky in center now?

A heartfelt thank-you to the K.C. Royals, who broke the hearts of Red Sox fans everywhere.  I was &quot;watching&quot; the game on Gameday and that ninth inning was a sweet, sweet joy.  If Papelbon comes back down to earth, that team is in trouble.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('baileywalk');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_9517','baileywalk');" /></div><span id="co_9517"><p>I&#8217;m glad you mentioned Villone, Steve.  Getting Villone is the off-season move no one talks about.  Where would this bullpen be without him?  Despite not being &#8220;trusted&#8221; by Torre for months, Villone is putting together a career year, and though everyone talks about the overuse of Proctor, he&#8217;s thrown a ton of innings and done nothing but come back and ask for more.  This guy really deserves more credit than he gets.  He comes out of that &#8216;pen a little wild, but he gets the job done.  He was a huge pickup for the team.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad MJ didn&#8217;t take Farnsworth to task today.  My heart broke a little for the big man last night.  After being untouchable for over a month, he got a little dumb and a little unlucky.  He really should have been out of that inning.  That little roller by Dye was a poor excuse for a hit (it was really A-Rod&#8217;s ball, but he backed off for Farns).  That home run to Crede was bad, but that three-two slider to Konerko was worse.  He cannot throw sliders in that count, and he can&#8217;t throw sliders EVER to Iguchi, who can&#8217;t hit a good fastball.</p>
<p>Joe also came up short here.  After Dye gets that grounder, why not walk Crede and then have Myers, who was warming up, pitching to A.J.?  You have two outs and Mo as insurance if anything goes bad (or if Ozzie sends up a pinch-hitter).  Instead he lets Farnsworth, who&#8217;s thrown a lot of pitches, pitch to a guy who, as annoying as he is, is a very good clutch hitter, and this year is a legit home run hitter.  It didn&#8217;t make any sense to me.</p>
<p>Torre seemed utterly disgusted with Farns after the game.  But, hey, over the last few days Papelbon, Mo, Zumaya and Izzy all gave up home runs.  No one is perfect.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s once again scary how Johnson can go from no-one-can-touch-him to he-can&#8217;t-get-anyone-out.  Once again the umpire went nuts (his strikezone suddenly shrunk after RJ gave up that one hit).  I think it&#8217;s time to start to think of RJ as they think of Wright: once he gets to the seventh inning, you have to go batter by batter.  RJ loses his bite quickly these days.</p>
<p>What is it with Mo and &#8220;sox&#8221; teams?  First it was the Red Sox, and now it&#8217;s the White Sox.  Mo doesn&#8217;t look comfortable pitching against them.  This is three games in a row where he was shaky against this team.</p>
<p>And finally &#8212; please, for the love of God, keep Bernie out of centerfield.  I could not believe he let that ball drop in front of him in the ninth.  It was an easy out.  He could easily have lost the game for them right there.</p>
<p>And what is WRONG with Torre?  He says he wants to play Melky in all three outfield positions next year, but he won&#8217;t put Melky in center now?</p>
<p>A heartfelt thank-you to the K.C. Royals, who broke the hearts of Red Sox fans everywhere.  I was &#8220;watching&#8221; the game on Gameday and that ninth inning was a sweet, sweet joy.  If Papelbon comes back down to earth, that team is in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghostwheel</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- But, you know what? I think Torre gets off on playing Bernie in CF --

Of course he does.  Bernie, even with all of the Yankee injuries has played way too much, and will continue to get too many at bats because of clueless Torre.  A few weeks ago, around the trade deadline there was an iterview with Torre where he was saying he wanted someone, anyone with experience to replace Melky in left, because he doesn&#039;t trust his youth.  Which was Torre telling us that Melky will sit in the playoffs for oldman Bernie.


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<p>Of course he does.  Bernie, even with all of the Yankee injuries has played way too much, and will continue to get too many at bats because of clueless Torre.  A few weeks ago, around the trade deadline there was an iterview with Torre where he was saying he wanted someone, anyone with experience to replace Melky in left, because he doesn&#8217;t trust his youth.  Which was Torre telling us that Melky will sit in the playoffs for oldman Bernie.</p>
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