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		<title>By: #15</title>
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		<dc:creator>#15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turning this one around for a minute....It also means that A-Rod must absolutely cut down on his freaking strike outs. He&#039;s struck out in 25.3% of his AB&#039;s. Abreu (26.9%) and Giambi (23.9%)are also high, but they both offest this with huge numbers of walks and correspondingly high OBP&#039;s. Jeter (16.5%), Damon (13.5%), Melky (11.8%!) and Cano (10.9%!) look like latent post season stars using this metric. With all these guys, the stats compare favorable with what our guts and experience indicate. The surprise I had was Bernie, who strikes out only 12.6% of the time. Still don&#039;t want the game on the line and the bat in his hands against a right hander (.255 BA and .296 OBP). Strike outs on the 4 hole are killers when you got such good OBP&#039;s at the top of the line up (though Damon&#039;s dropped off some in the second half of the season).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('#15');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_10607','#15');" /></div><span id="co_10607"><p>Turning this one around for a minute&#8230;.It also means that A-Rod must absolutely cut down on his freaking strike outs. He&#8217;s struck out in 25.3% of his AB&#8217;s. Abreu (26.9%) and Giambi (23.9%)are also high, but they both offest this with huge numbers of walks and correspondingly high OBP&#8217;s. Jeter (16.5%), Damon (13.5%), Melky (11.8%!) and Cano (10.9%!) look like latent post season stars using this metric. With all these guys, the stats compare favorable with what our guts and experience indicate. The surprise I had was Bernie, who strikes out only 12.6% of the time. Still don&#8217;t want the game on the line and the bat in his hands against a right hander (.255 BA and .296 OBP). Strike outs on the 4 hole are killers when you got such good OBP&#8217;s at the top of the line up (though Damon&#8217;s dropped off some in the second half of the season).</p>
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		<title>By: James Varghese</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Varghese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a quick aside, Chris Dial over at The Baseball Thin Factory does a defensive positional analysis. He uses different stats than the prospectus site but it should give a decent idea of why the Sox are so low.

The last one was Aug. 27 so a new one might be coming in soon:
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defensive_rankings_by_position_al_aug_27/

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<p>The last one was Aug. 27 so a new one might be coming in soon:<br />
<a href="http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defensive_rankings_by_position_al_aug_27/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defensive_rankings_by_position_al_aug_27/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mehmattski - Not sure, I have to check the book.
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe in NYC - I think you have a good point there.  Better news for NY too, maybe.
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		<title>By: mehmattski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mehmattski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it must have been in another chapter, but wasn&#039;t there also a study of correlations between various offensive/defensive metrics and their Playoff Success Points? If I remember correctly, the only positive correlation they found was between PSP and runs allowed, to the tune of barely significant r=.22. All other metrics (runs scored, OPS, EQA, ZR, defensive efficiency) were found to have almost no correlation. &quot;We might as well tie post season success with average jersey numbers,&quot; was their quip. What it told me is that in the playoffs, especially in a short series... &quot;Luck&quot; is what matters, followed by pitching. And when you look at the numbers for Runs Allowed, I think the Yankees have a much stronger standing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('mehmattski');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_10603','mehmattski');" /></div><span id="co_10603"><p>I guess it must have been in another chapter, but wasn&#8217;t there also a study of correlations between various offensive/defensive metrics and their Playoff Success Points? If I remember correctly, the only positive correlation they found was between PSP and runs allowed, to the tune of barely significant r=.22. All other metrics (runs scored, OPS, EQA, ZR, defensive efficiency) were found to have almost no correlation. &#8220;We might as well tie post season success with average jersey numbers,&#8221; was their quip. What it told me is that in the playoffs, especially in a short series&#8230; &#8220;Luck&#8221; is what matters, followed by pitching. And when you look at the numbers for Runs Allowed, I think the Yankees have a much stronger standing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
I&#039;ve read that study as well.
I think there ia a caveat to using regular season pitcher SOs to predict post-season success, because didn&#039;t the study use post-season data? Given the smaller pitching staffs in October, the Yankees would expect to give the bulk of their innings to Mussina, Wang, and Johnson, along with Proctor, Farnsworth and Rivera. 4 of these 6 pitchers have good SO rates, the exceptions being Rivera (who is known to have higher SO rates in the post-season) and Wang. And of course, Wang has already been proven to be a fairly unique pitching commodity, whose SO rates over the past 2 seasons do not seem correlated with his success. So maybe there should be a qualifier about expectations for the Yankees this post-season.
What do you think?
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I&#8217;ve read that study as well.<br />
I think there ia a caveat to using regular season pitcher SOs to predict post-season success, because didn&#8217;t the study use post-season data? Given the smaller pitching staffs in October, the Yankees would expect to give the bulk of their innings to Mussina, Wang, and Johnson, along with Proctor, Farnsworth and Rivera. 4 of these 6 pitchers have good SO rates, the exceptions being Rivera (who is known to have higher SO rates in the post-season) and Wang. And of course, Wang has already been proven to be a fairly unique pitching commodity, whose SO rates over the past 2 seasons do not seem correlated with his success. So maybe there should be a qualifier about expectations for the Yankees this post-season.<br />
What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: RICH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff but I&#039;m always leery using full year stats in comparisons because the player usage and roster is different than what&#039;s used during the playoffs. Why should Sturze&#039; (for example) strikeout rate be taken into consideration for how the playoffs might come out?


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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!
I&#039;ll have someone up on Ortiz later today.
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I&#8217;ll have someone up on Ortiz later today.</p>
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		<title>By: B(rent)</title>
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		<dc:creator>B(rent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, absolutely great study, and I love seeing &quot;Baseball Between the Numbers&quot; being mentioned, it&#039;s one of my favorite books, and I see it&#039;s one of yours too...

If you can, in a future post, can you comment on Big Papi&#039;s &quot;whining&quot; about the MVP award (the link is here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2582790)? It just seems a bit childish for a grown man to whine about a useless award such as the MVP...
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<p>If you can, in a future post, can you comment on Big Papi&#8217;s &#8220;whining&#8221; about the MVP award (the link is here: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2582790" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2582790</a>)? It just seems a bit childish for a grown man to whine about a useless award such as the MVP&#8230;</p>
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