• Costas: Yanks Should Trade A-Rod

    Posted by on October 19th, 2006 · Comments (22)

    From the Post, albeit a Page Six item:

    October 19, 2006 — BOB Costas agrees, A-Rod should go. At a breakfast this week at ’21′ – addressing a group that included Mario Cuomo, U.S. Ambassador to Jamaica Brenda Johnson, Steven Swid and Bill O’Shaughnessey – the NBC sportscaster said the Yankees should trade the third baseman “if they could get some young pitchers back . . . There is enough of a pattern to identify ‘issues’ with the guy. He may be one of the greatest six or seven ballplayers of all time. But clearly something is going on in his head. He’s pressing . . . He’s a very fragile guy.”

    As Captain Spaulding once said to Horatio Jamison:

    Put it in a box. Put it in a box and mark it, uh…”fragilly”……Mark it fragilly. F-R-A-G… Look it up, Jamison, it’s in the dictionary. Look under “fragile.” Look under the table if you don’t find it there…..

    Comments on Costas: Yanks Should Trade A-Rod

    1. Raf
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:01 pm

      Perhaps someone should tell Costas that “fragile” players usually don’t put up .915 OPS?

      Oh, and FWIW

      Home: .311-.398-.572
      Road: .270-.386-.474

    2. Joel
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:12 pm

      Bob “Fair Ball” Costas wants the Yankees to deal a guy on his way to 800 HR for unproven young pitching.

      Sounds about right to me.

    3. baileywalk
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:39 pm

      This is become an Elvis/Beatles thing. Either you want A-Rod traded or you don’t. The A-Rod supporters will talk about his OPS and his detractors will mention his horrific play in the playoffs and point out that Joe Torre hates him. There seems to be no middle ground.

      And if the Yankees DO trade A-Rod, they better get pitching back in the deal — because pitching is what they need.

    4. Nick from Washington Heights
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:46 pm

      let me be the middle ground. I don’t think trading A-Rod is a priority, but if a team were to make a great offer (Ervin Santana, Wood, FIggins and Shields), I’d do it in a heartbeat. That is not going to happen. So I’m against the idea of trading a player just because Torre hates him and he’s done poorly in 3 of 4 post-season series with us and the tabloids are killing him. Is that a middle-ground answer?

    5. baileywalk
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:56 pm

      Is that a middle-ground answer?
      —————

      Nope.

    6. rbj
      October 19th, 2006 | 3:56 pm

      Is there anything else going on in the universe besides whether or not the Yankees are going to trade A-Rod, and to whom?

    7. christopher
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:02 pm

      Is there anything else going on in the universe besides whether or not the Yankees are going to trade A-Rod, and to whom?
      ====================
      Yes. Giambi had wrist surgery today, Randy is having back surgery next week and will miss the start of spring training, Girardi might be coming back to the Yanks, Tony Pena might be leaving the Yanks…

    8. October 19th, 2006 | 4:08 pm

      Got a link to the Girardi story?

    9. Raf
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:24 pm

      I have no problem trading Rodriguez. I also have no problem if he stays.

      I have a bit of a problem with the way this saga is playing out. He’s shown he is capable of playing in NY, he has shown an ability to hit in the clutch, he has shown an ability to hit in the postseason. He’s not harming/distracting the team, they played near .600 ball the past 3 seasons. Don’t believe me? Everyone has access to the stats.

      Trading him because he did terrible over the span of 20 ab’s and because supposedly Torre and/or Jeter don’t like him is, well, stupid.

    10. MJ
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:28 pm

      ESPN had a blurb about the Philies being interested in adding Sheffield to improve the lineup protection for Ryan Howard.

      Peter Abraham had a suggestion that the Yankees sign Sheffield and then trade him off for pitching in order to a) get pitching (obviously) and b) place him somewhere that he won’t hurt the team.

      That beats another ARod story…let’s talk about this for a while.

    11. Raf
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:42 pm

      If the Phils can do it, go for it. I guess he replaces Delucci?

    12. christopher
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:44 pm

      Got a link to the Girardi story?
      ====================

      Baumbach blogged it this morning…

      http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2006/10/the_girardi_watch.html

    13. October 19th, 2006 | 4:45 pm

      Thanks!

    14. MJ
      October 19th, 2006 | 4:56 pm

      Raf: the Sheff-to-Phils idea was reported by ESPN as him replacing Pat Burrell whom they are trying to trade.

      I don’t know what they expect market price to be on Sheff but I’d have to assume it would be more than Pat Burrell so I guess they’d rather the better overall hitter, even if he’d be older and possibly more expensive.

    15. baileywalk
      October 19th, 2006 | 5:01 pm

      He’s not harming/distracting the team, they played near .600 ball the past 3 seasons. Don’t believe me? Everyone has access to the stats.
      ——————

      How do you know that, Raf? How do you know without A-Rod they don’t win more games? Maybe he made a 102-win team a 97-win team.

      Considering that all anyone wants to talk about is A-Rod — and his every move inspires endless questions to his teammates — I would say A-Rod WAS a distraction. And if not a distraction, then a nuisance.

    16. MJ
      October 19th, 2006 | 5:06 pm

      Considering that all anyone wants to talk about is A-Rod — and his every move inspires endless questions to his teammates — I would say A-Rod WAS a distraction. And if not a distraction, then a nuisance.
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      Couldn’t agree more. I mean it’s a nuisance to me to even read/discuss this topic AGAIN for like the millionth time since mid-May. Can you imagine what it must be like for those in the clubhouse. Which is why, even if he didn’t believe a word of it and privately hated his guts, Jeter should’ve quashed it. I mean, no vendetta (and I’m not saying that’s what it is, just for argument’s sake) is worth having to hear about ARod 24/7/365.

    17. Raf
      October 19th, 2006 | 5:38 pm

      How do you know that, Raf? How do you know without A-Rod they don’t win more games? Maybe he made a 102-win team a 97-win team.
      =========
      FWIW, pythagorean projects them to 95 wins.

      The Yanks won 2 more games with the ARod saga this year than the year prior, when it wasn’t “all ARod, all the time.” Shall we give him credit for that? (I don’t, I’m just making a point)

      If you want to ask why the Yanks didn’t win more games, you may want to look at;

      Hitters
      Wil Nieves -1
      Bernie Williams -1
      Nick Green -2
      Terrence Long -4
      Sal Fasano -5
      Kelly Stinnett -5
      Bubba Crosby -6
      Craig Wilson -8
      Miguel Cairo -11
      Andy Phillips -13

      Pitchers
      Colter Bean -1
      Sean Henn -1
      Jaret Wright -2
      Cory Lidle -4
      Tanyon Sturtze -4
      Kris Wilson -4
      Scott Erickson -5
      Ron Villone -6
      Octavio Dotel -7
      T.J. Beam -8
      Sidney Ponson -11
      Aaron Small -13
      Randy Johnson -15
      Shawn Chacon -19

      Those guys hurt the team.

      If he was such a distraction and a nuisance, it would’ve shown up in player stats. Just about everyone listed above, with the exception of Johnson (Craig Wilson too?), did about as well as was expected. Of course we understand that most of those guys above were for the most part nonstarters, so we don’t expect them to do as well as the starters.

      Distraction or nuisance, the Yanks scored 930 runs, easily best in the league (next was Cleveland, with 870). Can’t really improve on the offense. So, that leaves defense and pitching.

      Defensively, they were 2nd in the league in defensive efficiency (turning batted balls to outs), but as unreliable as fielding metrics are, I don’t know if we should really use them.

      So, on to the pitching. T-6th in the league in ERA. Highest of all contending teams. 6th in average runs & runs allowed.

      Yep, it’s the pitching.

    18. Garcia
      October 19th, 2006 | 6:00 pm

      I’m dropping a thousand F- bombs right now, what is it about ARod that is causing a circus in Yankee land? This f’ing guy, I can’t believe we have another post on him. We can’t talk about anything w/o mentioning this guy, I’m not critical of that but it just keeps driving the point home further on why we need to trade this f’ing fairy.

      How many times must we beat this dead horse? A lot I guess….till he’s traded. This off-season, the motto is: Trade ARod or Bust.

    19. Raf
      October 19th, 2006 | 11:44 pm

      If people used a bit of common sense, and got their facts straight, ARod wouldn’t be nearly as hot a topic as he has been.

    20. JeremyM
      October 19th, 2006 | 11:53 pm

      I agree Raf, but apparently having to read about him on a blog too much for one’s liking is enough to justify a trade. It’s one thing if third-baseman grew on trees, but I just don’t see where the Yankees can break even or improve by trading him. Anyway….what a freaking ballgame. If anything shows what small sample size is all about in the playoffs, this series showed it, even with the Mets down a couple pitchers.

    21. baileywalk
      October 20th, 2006 | 1:04 am

      I agree Raf, but apparently having to read about him on a blog too much for one’s liking is enough to justify a trade.
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      I guess a discussion on A-Rod without sarcasm and hyperbole is unattainable.

    22. Yu Hsing Chen
      October 20th, 2006 | 2:01 am

      Phillies want to rid themself of Burrell but again it’s not likely they can get a much better package than the Matt Smith / CJ Henry type, and that’s probably not what they have in mind.

      Burrell is the only good righty they have right now. (unless Ruiz and Coste turn out good too) they could use one more easily.

      A OF of Burrell / Victorino / Sheff is pretty damn good, the problem is again though, that the Phillies aren’t exactly dieing to score runs, they lead the NL in RS for 2 strait years already.
      (then again, i guess with the nutty bad pitching market they might as well try to exploit their band box as much as possible and built a new big red machine.)

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