• They Don’t Grow Many, Do They?

    Posted by on December 11th, 2006 · Comments (10)

    I was just wondering when was the last time that the Yankees had a 26-year old pitcher throw 200+ IP with at least 15 RSAA – like Worm Killer Wang did in 2006. So, I turned to the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia and did a sort from 1973:

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    Funny, it was almost a year ago here that I reflected on that 1992 season by Melido Perez.

    In any event, there’s a case to be made that Wang is the best home-grown starting pitcher for the Yankees since Andy Pettitte and Ron Guidry. And, he’s probably the best right-handed SP developed by the Yankees since the days of Mel Stottlemyre, Stan Bahnsen and Jim Bouton.

    You would think that there would have been more of these guys in the last 40-years or so?

    Comments on They Don’t Grow Many, Do They?

    1. brockdc
      December 12th, 2006 | 12:36 am

      No mention of Scott Neilsen, Steve? Blasphemy.

    2. Chewbacca
      December 12th, 2006 | 12:46 am

      If any of you are wondering about the looming Thursday deadline of signing Matsuzaka, you have your answer. Dice-K to the Sox…for an undervalued contract.

      “This decision is going to be Daisuke’s — he has to make the call,” Boras said.

      So in the end, Daisuke, having no relationship with the Red Sox but for one face-to-face meeting, will become DIE-suke, as he dies for his new team and takes a crap contract to help the team that is showing him complete disrespect by lowballing him and “trying” to use Clemens as leverage against him.

      What a sick world we live in. I love Fly-Hi-deki, but if the same situation occurred with Matsui, and it was Matsui’s call, he would view everything we did (if we did everything the Red Sox way) as complete and utter disrespect.

    3. December 12th, 2006 | 8:44 am

      ~~~No mention of Scott Neilsen,~~~

      Now, *that’s* a blast from the past!

    4. Raf
      December 12th, 2006 | 9:42 am

      You would think that there would have been more of these guys in the last 40-years or so?
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      There were, but they pitched for other organizations :)

    5. #15
      December 12th, 2006 | 11:16 am

      What an abysmal record of pitching development (or the lack there of). Add in Mo, and it helps some, plus a few others here and there. But, in total, the Yankee organization has flat out stunk it up for 30 years. As an example, if he hadn’t been traded for Jeff Freaking Weaver, Ted Lilly would have been one of the star accomplishments.

      That said, I think we finally have a minor league & young major league staff that could lay out a fairly complete starting rotation (1 through 5, instead of 5 number 5′s) and 3-4 relievers over the next 2-4 years. The only thing I don’t see is that bullpen stud for when 42 goes to pasture. Cash deserves some credit for holding on to Hughes, Wang and a few others and avoiding the tendency to trade for aging pitchers. Putting things in this light, getting Andy for no compensation (a tactical mistake by the Astro’s to not offer Andy arbitration) was a good bridge move; i.e., let’s cover the next couple with Andy and Moose and by then we should be ready to bring up some guys that have had time to develop, improve, and build arm strength.

    6. Don
      December 12th, 2006 | 1:44 pm

      Lilly was not originally Yankee property.

      For that matter neither was Doug Drabek.

    7. Raf
      December 12th, 2006 | 2:33 pm

      Lilly was not originally Yankee property.

      For that matter neither was Doug Drabek.
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      That is correct, coming from the Expos and White Sox respectively.

      FWIW, Jay Buhner came out of the Pirates system, traded for Steve Kemp (for some reason, I keep thinking they traded him for Omar Moreno)

    8. baileywalk
      December 12th, 2006 | 3:23 pm

      The only thing I don’t see is that bullpen stud for when 42 goes to pasture.
      ————

      There are a lot of candidates. Cox is probably more of a Scot Shields setup man than closer, but he has a chance. Melancon hopefully will get healthy. Robertson is a strikeout machine. There were kids in Staten Island we can keep our fingers crossed about. If the Yankees have a surplus of starting pitching (a nice dream) Joba Chamberlain is a candidate, too (he has a big-time fastball and a good slider).

      And for what it’s worth, Al Leiter wrote on the YES Network’s web site that Sanchez will be closing for AAA next year, which must mean the Yankees see him as the future closer of the team.

    9. #15
      December 12th, 2006 | 7:26 pm

      There are a lot of candidates. Cox is probably more of a Scot Shields setup man than closer, but he has a chance. Melancon hopefully will get healthy. Robertson is a strikeout machine. There were kids in Staten Island we can keep our fingers crossed about. If the Yankees have a surplus of starting pitching (a nice dream) Joba Chamberlain is a candidate, too (he has a big-time fastball and a good slider).
      ——————

      I know it’s a tall order, but I’ll be shocked if any of these guys can carry Mo’s shoes. We’ll have to wait (hopefully a long time) and see.

    10. baileywalk
      December 13th, 2006 | 1:01 am

      15, Mo was a failed starter. If someone suggested him as a future closer while he was losing as a starter, they probably would have said, “He couldn’t carry Wetteland’s shoes.”

      You’re not basing that on ANYTHING since these guys haven’t even been given the time to fail. Cox was lights out in AA last year, and everyone else mentioned has plus stuff (Sanchez has a big, high-90s fastball and a devasasting changeup).

      These guys have as much chance of being the next Yankee closer as anyone else. The field is open. Why would you dismiss them without even seeing them pitch? I don’t understand that at all. Saying that Mo will have a replacement doesn’t take away from Mo’s utter dominance, nor does it suggest any of these guys will approach his talent level.

      There’s no telling what any of them will do, but if the Yankees are making Sanchez the AAA closer, that means THEY think he has the stuff to be their next closer, and I’ll take their word on it.

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