• The Moose Call

    Posted by on April 25th, 2007 · Comments (12)

    Do you know how many games Mike Mussina has won for the Yankees since June 26, 2006?

    Six.

    Or, to state it another way, “Five more than Carl Pavano.”

    In the second-half of the season last year, opponents batted .268 against Mussina. For the year, the league batting average was .275.

    This season, Mussina was injured during his second start of the year.

    Many Yankees fans feel that the return of Mike Mussina (from the D.L.) will help the Yankees current issue with respect to their lack of starting pitching depth. But, when you look at what Mussina did over the second-half of last year, and this season to date, is that a correct assumption?

    Comments on The Moose Call

    1. April 25th, 2007 | 2:30 pm

      Wins are practically useless when trying to determine how well a pitcher is doing. You mentioned his BAA was .268 while league average is .275, what’s bad about that?

      Moose will bring a much needed sense of stability to the rotation.

    2. WilG
      April 25th, 2007 | 2:43 pm

      So the 10 games he pitched into the 6th or later after 06.06.07 wouldn’t help this team?

      He shouldn’t be counted on as a dominant ace, but is you look at his games from the 2nd half of last year (admittedly not his best work), you see a guy who goes about 6 and gives up at 3 or so. This is exactly what this team needs to keep the bullpen fresh. I think Torre and most Yankees fans would be thrilled with Moose’s solid, even if unspectacular, outings every fifth day.

      All of this also ignores his tremendous first-half, when he pitched like an ace. Not sure why doesn’t count into the equation.

      Lots of things to be concerned about on this team, not sure Moose is a good place to start.

    3. baileywalk
      April 25th, 2007 | 2:52 pm

      Don’t even beat about the bush and be vague about it, Steve. We all know Mussina sucks, he’s not a big-game pitcher, he’s never helped this team, he’s not worth the money he’s paid, he’s a jerk, his teammates don’t like him, he’s smug, he’s not durable, and he’s been a huge disappointment.

      Nothing he’s done while here can dispute it, either.

    4. April 25th, 2007 | 2:57 pm

      ~~~Moose will bring a much needed sense of stability to the rotation.~~~

      How? In the last three full months of regular season play, he’s been on the DL twice.

    5. April 25th, 2007 | 3:05 pm

      Let’s play the bullpen game.

      Sept. 17 – Mike Mussina leaves the game against the Red Sox with a 4-2 lead. Bullpen blows lead. Yanks lose.

      And the rain delay game.

      June 30 – Mike Mussina throws four no-hit innings against the Mets. Rain forces him out of the game. Yanks win.

      So do 8 wins since June 26th sound better? I think so.

      Wins are such a poor indication of a pitcher’s success.

    6. April 25th, 2007 | 3:06 pm

      ~~~Don’t even beat about the bush and be vague about it, Steve. ~~~

      Actually, in the last 6 months or so, I’ve gained new respect for Mussina. He’s done a good job for the Yankees over the years. And, he’s taken on a leadership role on the team as well. I’m impressed with what he’s done to date, on the whole.

      It’s just that I fear he’s more of a 4-5 guy now than a 2-3 pitcher. And, I suspect that many – including the Yankees, still see him as a #3 guy. Which, could be a mistake at this junction…based on his recent results. That’s my point here.

    7. j
      April 25th, 2007 | 4:02 pm

      Mussina’s AL rankings:

      WHIP – 1.11 – 3rd
      ERA – 3.51 – 4th
      BB/9 – 1.6 – 3rd
      Hits/9 – 8.39 – 3rd
      K/9 – 7.84 – 9th
      K’s – 172 – 9th
      K/BB – 4.91 – 3rd

      Come on, Steve. A healthy Moose is definitely a stabilizing element of this rotation. If we’re handing him the ball in Game 3 of a playoff series, things are most certainly good.

    8. April 25th, 2007 | 4:05 pm

      This may be some kind of record, but for the second time in a day, I’m gonna agree with you Steve, especially in light of your last comment. What I’ve seen of Mussina recently hasn’t been very impressive, and you’re right to say that he’s not a top of the rotation starter anymore.

      So the expectation of Moose’s return from the DL is “will help things” and not “will turn things all the way around.” Neither should Hughes’ arrival be THE spark for the Yanks. But taken together, a healthy Moose and an adjusted Hughes will contribute to a 90 win season.

    9. j
      April 25th, 2007 | 4:07 pm

      ~~~~ Mussina’s AL rankings: ~~~~

      … in 2006.

    10. April 25th, 2007 | 5:02 pm

      ~~~Mussina’s AL rankings:~~~

      What were his rankings based just on the 2nd 1/2 of 2006?

    11. SteveB
      April 25th, 2007 | 7:50 pm

      I’m going to take a crack a writing a little story that makes as much sense as what you wrote, Steve.

      The last five times there was a house fire in the United States the Brooklyn Fire Department didn’t put out a single one of them. And they call themselves a Fire Department???

      Of course when they do put out fires, they do it slightly faster and more thoroughly than other fire departments, but I mean seriously.

    12. rbj
      April 25th, 2007 | 8:02 pm

      Moose isn’t the dominant ace. Don’t think anyone thought otherwise (otherwise, why bring in Unit). Still, as others have said, wins are a poor metric for how well a pitcher is doing.

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