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		<title>By: snowball003</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowball003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Melky busting his hump, I see Jeter trying, I see ARod playing a good 3rd, I see Posada trying, I see Abreu pissed at himself, I see Damon trying to use his bs arm to throw out Reyes.
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Ditto.  I&#039;d never seen Abreu happier than when he hit that home run against Chicago.  It&#039;s not like he&#039;s never hit a home run before, he was just happy to finally be doing something.
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Ditto.  I&#8217;d never seen Abreu happier than when he hit that home run against Chicago.  It&#8217;s not like he&#8217;s never hit a home run before, he was just happy to finally be doing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh boy, another pitching injury...
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on what, their level of play so far this season?
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3rd in runs scored &amp; avg runs scored
11th in ERA
8th in pitching runs allowed
2nd in defensive efficiency

Seeing as the pitching is coming around, I think they&#039;ll be ok.

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3rd in runs scored &#038; avg runs scored<br />
11th in ERA<br />
8th in pitching runs allowed<br />
2nd in defensive efficiency</p>
<p>Seeing as the pitching is coming around, I think they&#8217;ll be ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 20:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At times like this, it should be &quot;Do, or do not. There is no &#039;try.&#039;&quot;

And, if you&#039;re not &quot;doing&quot; then you should be &quot;going.&quot;
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I&#039;ve never been a business owner, but I&#039;ve been one of the men in the trenches.

Whenever management gets their panties in a bunch, we tell them what they want to hear, in order to get them to STFU.  In reality we&#039;d like to tell them to STFU, we know what we&#039;re doing so they should get their fat @sses back in the office, but diplomacy prevents us from doing so.  You hired me to do a job, let me do it.

WRT the Yanks, evaluations come after the season, not during it.
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<p>And, if you&#8217;re not &#8220;doing&#8221; then you should be &#8220;going.&#8221;<br />
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I&#8217;ve never been a business owner, but I&#8217;ve been one of the men in the trenches.</p>
<p>Whenever management gets their panties in a bunch, we tell them what they want to hear, in order to get them to STFU.  In reality we&#8217;d like to tell them to STFU, we know what we&#8217;re doing so they should get their fat @sses back in the office, but diplomacy prevents us from doing so.  You hired me to do a job, let me do it.</p>
<p>WRT the Yanks, evaluations come after the season, not during it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeteupthemiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeteupthemiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when people confuse success and effort.

Just because a team isn&#039;t hitting doesn&#039;t mean a team isn&#039;t trying or that a team doesn&#039;t care.

Firing Torre would be firing him for the sake of firing him.

I can understand why the Yankees would do it (can&#039;t fire the players), but that doesn&#039;t mean that the Yankees should do it.

Torre can&#039;t make Abreu, Cano, Giambi, Matsui, Arod, or Damon hit.

He can&#039;t make his pitchers throw strikes.

A new manager won&#039;t be able to do any of that either.

Any success a new manager would have is success that Torre most likely will get because Torre&#039;s PLAYERS aren&#039;t performing right now, and they will eventually.  The lack of execution right now, has nothing to do with the manager.
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<p>Just because a team isn&#8217;t hitting doesn&#8217;t mean a team isn&#8217;t trying or that a team doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Firing Torre would be firing him for the sake of firing him.</p>
<p>I can understand why the Yankees would do it (can&#8217;t fire the players), but that doesn&#8217;t mean that the Yankees should do it.</p>
<p>Torre can&#8217;t make Abreu, Cano, Giambi, Matsui, Arod, or Damon hit.</p>
<p>He can&#8217;t make his pitchers throw strikes.</p>
<p>A new manager won&#8217;t be able to do any of that either.</p>
<p>Any success a new manager would have is success that Torre most likely will get because Torre&#8217;s PLAYERS aren&#8217;t performing right now, and they will eventually.  The lack of execution right now, has nothing to do with the manager.</p>
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		<title>By: baileywalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baileywalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Yankee players were at a job, the Mets players were hanging out and having fun.
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		<title>By: dereksTeam</title>
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		<dc:creator>dereksTeam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the fact that batting slumps are just that, batting slumps. That Robbie Cano is not a flash in the pan, neither Melky Cabrera nor Bobby Abreu. The latter two are showing signs of coming out of it. That Arod is Arod. That the Giambino and Damon are playing injured and that they will work out of it, as they always have. And they ARE due to be replaced. Make way for Teixeira; if I can spell his name, he&#039;s practically here.

The pitching shows weakness in middle relief, but whose doesn&#039;t. The days of dipping into the minors to cover the front rotation will be over in mid June. In the meantime I&#039;m looking forward to Tyler Clippard and I think Rasner has been great.

I also know that Jorge is not going to finish the year at .350, so I&#039;m not wearing blinders. The point, which YOU haven&#039;t answered, is that you seem to believe that the sky has fallen. Giambi and Damon are old, injured and useless. It&#039;s over for Abreu. And your nitwit list of failures and swooning grief goes on and on.

On the contrary, Pettite has been awesome (a lot better than I thought I&#039;m embarrassed to say), Moose has had some great starts, same with Wang. You&#039;re writing off bankable stars. Clemens will be Clemens (somewhere between the greatest show on earth and average) and THE KID will be back. Giambi will finish the year with 35+ HRs and Damon will put together another .290 + season. Same with Abreu. What do you want to do? Trade &#039;em? These are veteran stars still in their servicable prime. You say NO? You want the little bouncy Dominicans from Shea? Ooooh Bouncy! Ooooh SPUNKY!

Please, If anyone ever spots a &quot;spunky&quot; Yankee you have my permission to aim a rotten egg at him.

We are not the Atlanta Braves, Francoeur&#039;s comments to the contrary. What the fuck does he know anyways?  Debuted in 2005, his first walk not coming until his 128th at bat!!! Started running mouth in 2006.

I say you have the fatalism of a SAWKS fan and none of their hard-earned logic to back it up. They can prove it, to the tune of 1 out of 89.

So where were you last year at this time? I remember dealing with Sox fans telling me it was all over, weren&#039;t we 11-19 at some point, 8 games below 500, probably 10 game behind. I bet you would have traded Derek when he went 0 for 34, whatever. Show me your 11-19 comments, where were your predictions then. Face it Stevie, it&#039;s easier to write disaster stories than it is to look for the positive in life or sports.

The secret of being a good fan is to know talent.  And stick with it, while others lose their heads. If these were a bunch of going-through-the-motions-aging-superstars-making-excuses, I&#039;d be with you. Your shtick just ain&#039;t sellin&#039; because they are simply not.

Don&#039;t worry, I&#039;m not the kind of guy who writes you every year and says I told you so...he he he he. Remember &#039;07. The Mick Lives!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('dereksTeam');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_18493','dereksTeam');" /></div><span id="co_18493"><p>Based on the fact that batting slumps are just that, batting slumps. That Robbie Cano is not a flash in the pan, neither Melky Cabrera nor Bobby Abreu. The latter two are showing signs of coming out of it. That Arod is Arod. That the Giambino and Damon are playing injured and that they will work out of it, as they always have. And they ARE due to be replaced. Make way for Teixeira; if I can spell his name, he&#8217;s practically here.</p>
<p>The pitching shows weakness in middle relief, but whose doesn&#8217;t. The days of dipping into the minors to cover the front rotation will be over in mid June. In the meantime I&#8217;m looking forward to Tyler Clippard and I think Rasner has been great.</p>
<p>I also know that Jorge is not going to finish the year at .350, so I&#8217;m not wearing blinders. The point, which YOU haven&#8217;t answered, is that you seem to believe that the sky has fallen. Giambi and Damon are old, injured and useless. It&#8217;s over for Abreu. And your nitwit list of failures and swooning grief goes on and on.</p>
<p>On the contrary, Pettite has been awesome (a lot better than I thought I&#8217;m embarrassed to say), Moose has had some great starts, same with Wang. You&#8217;re writing off bankable stars. Clemens will be Clemens (somewhere between the greatest show on earth and average) and THE KID will be back. Giambi will finish the year with 35+ HRs and Damon will put together another .290 + season. Same with Abreu. What do you want to do? Trade &#8216;em? These are veteran stars still in their servicable prime. You say NO? You want the little bouncy Dominicans from Shea? Ooooh Bouncy! Ooooh SPUNKY!</p>
<p>Please, If anyone ever spots a &#8220;spunky&#8221; Yankee you have my permission to aim a rotten egg at him.</p>
<p>We are not the Atlanta Braves, Francoeur&#8217;s comments to the contrary. What the fuck does he know anyways?  Debuted in 2005, his first walk not coming until his 128th at bat!!! Started running mouth in 2006.</p>
<p>I say you have the fatalism of a SAWKS fan and none of their hard-earned logic to back it up. They can prove it, to the tune of 1 out of 89.</p>
<p>So where were you last year at this time? I remember dealing with Sox fans telling me it was all over, weren&#8217;t we 11-19 at some point, 8 games below 500, probably 10 game behind. I bet you would have traded Derek when he went 0 for 34, whatever. Show me your 11-19 comments, where were your predictions then. Face it Stevie, it&#8217;s easier to write disaster stories than it is to look for the positive in life or sports.</p>
<p>The secret of being a good fan is to know talent.  And stick with it, while others lose their heads. If these were a bunch of going-through-the-motions-aging-superstars-making-excuses, I&#8217;d be with you. Your shtick just ain&#8217;t sellin&#8217; because they are simply not.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;m not the kind of guy who writes you every year and says I told you so&#8230;he he he he. Remember &#8217;07. The Mick Lives!</p>
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		<title>By: RICH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~say you&#039;re the owner of a business.

I have owned businesses and what many Yankee fans are doing is overreacting to every high and low as if it was a football season.

If you want to change managers for the sake of change go ahead but if that&#039;s your plan it&#039;s nothing more than hoping for a caffeine jolt at best. That&#039;s not a plan.

&quot;There’s a chasm between these two teams in terms of attitude, approach and cohesiveness&quot;

If that&#039;s causing the Yankees to be losing then which players have a bad attitude and/or approach? I don&#039;t see any loafing going on.

Cohesiveness problem? Do you want every Yankee to shave their heads as the Mets have done? I don&#039;t mind anyone doing it but I don&#039;t think it will help performance.

People are mistaking cause and affect.

The Yankees are losing games now because they&#039;re not hitting even though their pitching and fielding have been pretty solid.

This team&#039;s roster has shown it can make up deficits though none as large as the current one is and I think this year&#039;s team is better than the last few ones.

If there was a glaring problem that could be fixed I&#039;d say fix it but I don&#039;t see a glaring problem.

At the beginning of the season I thought the team would win about 95. It&#039;s getting tougher to be able to reach that number but the ingredients are there to accomplish it.
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<p>I have owned businesses and what many Yankee fans are doing is overreacting to every high and low as if it was a football season.</p>
<p>If you want to change managers for the sake of change go ahead but if that&#8217;s your plan it&#8217;s nothing more than hoping for a caffeine jolt at best. That&#8217;s not a plan.</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s a chasm between these two teams in terms of attitude, approach and cohesiveness&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s causing the Yankees to be losing then which players have a bad attitude and/or approach? I don&#8217;t see any loafing going on.</p>
<p>Cohesiveness problem? Do you want every Yankee to shave their heads as the Mets have done? I don&#8217;t mind anyone doing it but I don&#8217;t think it will help performance.</p>
<p>People are mistaking cause and affect.</p>
<p>The Yankees are losing games now because they&#8217;re not hitting even though their pitching and fielding have been pretty solid.</p>
<p>This team&#8217;s roster has shown it can make up deficits though none as large as the current one is and I think this year&#8217;s team is better than the last few ones.</p>
<p>If there was a glaring problem that could be fixed I&#8217;d say fix it but I don&#8217;t see a glaring problem.</p>
<p>At the beginning of the season I thought the team would win about 95. It&#8217;s getting tougher to be able to reach that number but the ingredients are there to accomplish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 17:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an add-on:  I invite you guys to read what Phil has posted at Inside the Stadium:

http://www.insidethestadium.com/?p=448

&quot;It’s painfully obvious which team is the better team in New York right now. The cool, calm and collected Mets are 27-14. The Yankees are 18-22. After stepping into both locker rooms tonight after the Mets 3-2 win over the Yankees the difference is glaring. It’s not that the Mets were glowing because they have been winning and the Yankees were glum because they have been struggling. Oh, no. There’s a chasm between these two teams in terms of attitude, approach and cohesiveness. The Yankee players were at a job, the Mets players were hanging out and having fun.&quot;

That&#039;s part of my point.  The Yankees need an attitude adjustment...and that starts with replacing the man whose attitude they carry now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_18491','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_18491"><p>Just an add-on:  I invite you guys to read what Phil has posted at Inside the Stadium:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidethestadium.com/?p=448" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidethestadium.com/?p=448</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It’s painfully obvious which team is the better team in New York right now. The cool, calm and collected Mets are 27-14. The Yankees are 18-22. After stepping into both locker rooms tonight after the Mets 3-2 win over the Yankees the difference is glaring. It’s not that the Mets were glowing because they have been winning and the Yankees were glum because they have been struggling. Oh, no. There’s a chasm between these two teams in terms of attitude, approach and cohesiveness. The Yankee players were at a job, the Mets players were hanging out and having fun.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of my point.  The Yankees need an attitude adjustment&#8230;and that starts with replacing the man whose attitude they carry now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 17:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~~~This is a team that can take the next 18 out of 21 ballgames.~~~

Based on what, their level of play so far this season?  Anyone who thinks this team can win 18 of their next 21 games is wearing size X-Large Yankees blinders and not seeing the truth.
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<p>Based on what, their level of play so far this season?  Anyone who thinks this team can win 18 of their next 21 games is wearing size X-Large Yankees blinders and not seeing the truth.</p>
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