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		<title>By: snowball003</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2007/06/23/june-22nd-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-19513</link>
		<dc:creator>snowball003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to do to be thankful for Kei Igawa is think of one thing:

Carl Pavano.

Compared to that clown, Igawa is a STEAL at $11M a year, even if he pitches 4 innings a start.  Better than--what did that arcticle say?  $5M or $8M per victory?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('snowball003');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_19513','snowball003');" /></div><span id="co_19513"><p>All I have to do to be thankful for Kei Igawa is think of one thing:</p>
<p>Carl Pavano.</p>
<p>Compared to that clown, Igawa is a STEAL at $11M a year, even if he pitches 4 innings a start.  Better than&#8211;what did that arcticle say?  $5M or $8M per victory?</p>
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		<title>By: jdasilva</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2007/06/23/june-22nd-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-19512</link>
		<dc:creator>jdasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just stunned Matt Cain was so bad. All I&#039;ve been reading is how the Giants are 2-12 when he starts but none of that is his fault. Granted, they still only scored three runs last night, but Cain didn&#039;t help much.
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Draft Alan Horne!

Ted Lilly&#039;s not so great. I&#039;m not happy with Igawa, but i&#039;m happier with him than I am with Lilly, I think. Lilly would never consent to being a long reliever or going to the minors, at any rate.

Also, Igawa is a lot more tradable than Lilly would have been. His contract is $4 million a year, which could be a steal if Igawa ever comes around to being a league average pitcher. Lots of potential value there, and that might have been in the back the Yankee&#039;s minds when they signed him.
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<p>Ted Lilly&#8217;s not so great. I&#8217;m not happy with Igawa, but i&#8217;m happier with him than I am with Lilly, I think. Lilly would never consent to being a long reliever or going to the minors, at any rate.</p>
<p>Also, Igawa is a lot more tradable than Lilly would have been. His contract is $4 million a year, which could be a steal if Igawa ever comes around to being a league average pitcher. Lots of potential value there, and that might have been in the back the Yankee&#8217;s minds when they signed him.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s my fault -- that fifth inning was when I got home and turned the tv on to see how the team was doing.

If Iggy can only go three innings, pair him up with Roger.
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<p>If Iggy can only go three innings, pair him up with Roger.</p>
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		<title>By: singledd</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2007/06/23/june-22nd-the-giants/comment-page-1/#comment-19509</link>
		<dc:creator>singledd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted Lilly: (4 yrs @ 40m) + 40% tax = $56mil = $14mil/yr
Iggy-San: $25m (untaxable) + 21m + 40%(of 21m) = $54mil for 5 years = $11mil/yr.

So Iggy isn&#039;t cheap (although he was the 2nd best pitcher in Japan), but is still $3mil/yr cheaper then the great Ted Lilly would have been.

So IF Iggy works out as a 4.5 ERA, 5th starter, he will be a &#039;decent&#039; deal. I think he CAN pitch, but his head is getting in the way. Its a long way from Japan to the USA.

I still think he can pan out for us.
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Iggy-San: $25m (untaxable) + 21m + 40%(of 21m) = $54mil for 5 years = $11mil/yr.</p>
<p>So Iggy isn&#8217;t cheap (although he was the 2nd best pitcher in Japan), but is still $3mil/yr cheaper then the great Ted Lilly would have been.</p>
<p>So IF Iggy works out as a 4.5 ERA, 5th starter, he will be a &#8216;decent&#8217; deal. I think he CAN pitch, but his head is getting in the way. Its a long way from Japan to the USA.</p>
<p>I still think he can pan out for us.</p>
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		<title>By: dereksTeam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I thought the difference was that he had some of his stuff low and the rising fastballs that are too high when guys swing at them, were just that. I think before that just too much of his stuff was too high all the time and allowed guys to tee off on him. His curves especially, which he didn&#039;t throw too many of last night.

So this could be an excellent omen. I think the Yanks have a number of 9 and 1 or 8 and 2 runs left in them.

And as for the Sawks, I still don&#039;t buy it. I don&#039;t buy Pedroia and Youkillis as .320 hitters, I don&#039;t buy Tavarez or Okajima. I don&#039;t buy Matsuzaka and Beckett as 20 + game winners. They have several 5 and 5 and 4 and 6 streaks left in them. They will wind up at 90 or 91 wins not at over 100 wins.


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<p>So this could be an excellent omen. I think the Yanks have a number of 9 and 1 or 8 and 2 runs left in them.</p>
<p>And as for the Sawks, I still don&#8217;t buy it. I don&#8217;t buy Pedroia and Youkillis as .320 hitters, I don&#8217;t buy Tavarez or Okajima. I don&#8217;t buy Matsuzaka and Beckett as 20 + game winners. They have several 5 and 5 and 4 and 6 streaks left in them. They will wind up at 90 or 91 wins not at over 100 wins.</p>
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		<title>By: RICH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His pitches seem to end up with the same results as Clippard&#039;s so until/unless he blows up again they might as well keep Clippard pitching on rotation in the minors.
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		<title>By: Santino53</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Igawa baseball&#039;e first $46 million long reliever?
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