No need Nick. And, best wishes for that person you know.

Yeah, I’m probably sensitive about it because someone close to me is fighting cancer and green tea has become a symbol of hope as cheesy as that might sound. I wasn’t quite sure everyone realized why Torre was a big drinker of the stuff. Anyway, it’s no big deal. I hate to be overly sanctimonious so I’ll apologize.

noMaas actually calls Torre “Four Rings,” which is even funnier, since it’s a play on everyone’s defense of Torre (“but he’s won four championships!”).

There’s nothing demeaning about that nickname or the one Steve uses — because there’s nothing mean-spirited about it. It’s just an amusing little jab. I like to call him Zucchini Nose, which definitely pushes the boundaries a bit more.

Steve asked why Bruney and Farns are still on the team, and it’s simple: Farns makes eight mil a year and Bruney is a quality arm who costs nothing. I don’t think Bruney is going anywhere unless he’s an add-in to a bigger trade, but you have to expect Farnsworth will be available in a salary dump. Considering the lineups in the NL, and what lesser pitches do there (not to mention how he dominated in the NL two years ago), you would have to think some team would take Farnsworth on (if all they had to do was pay his salary).

yeah, but when has Mr. Green Tea ever been used in a positive or affectionate way? Do his players use the nickname for instance? I see the No Maas guys use it all the time and Steve occasionally when he’s being critical of Torre. I guess I don’t understand why it seems to be used only when Torre is being mocked for some bad decision. Maybe I’ve missed the times when it’s intended as an affectionate nickname.

Back to the original post. I’m with Steve. I really can’t figure out why Farnsworth is still on the team at this point. I think he’s become my least favorite player since Jeff Weaver.

“Green Tea” is a nickname. Just like Dave LaPoint was nicknamed “snacks” because he liked to snack. Or Dennis Ray was nicknamed “Oil Can” because he drank beer, or Alfred Manuel Martin was nicknamed Billy, because his grandmother called him “Bello,” so on and so forth.

I admit it. I’m pretty slow. Is the joke behind the Mr. Green Tea handle that Joe is such a poor manager that he seems to be consulting the tea leaves? Or that his name begins with “t” and he seems green as a manager sometimes?

Because doesn’t he drink green tea because he is a cancer survivor and doctors recommend it to prevent it from coming back? I guess I’m humorless but I don’t get why there’s a jokey nickname as a result of this.

~~~Demean myself? Really? That’s some high horse Rich.~~~

Steve, I can’t speak for Rich but since I did agree with him then I can tell you what my interpretation was with the “demeaning” part. I feel it cheapens whatever point you are trying to make when you refer to him in a negative connotation. Calling him, Mr. Green Tea, doesn’t make your argument/point stronger. I was reading each line, understanding your points and they were making sense, then I read that and I felt as if it didn’t belong.

That’s just my 2 pennies, from my perspective.

~~~Did you notice anything good about todays game Steve? ~~~

J – I have to ask you the same question that I asked dereksTeam on this past Tuesay:

If I piss you off as much as it seems that I do…and there’s evidence to support this…Why do you keep coming back? Do you like it when someone pisses you off?

~~~You can take Moose out after the leadoff double, but you have to let him start the seventh. He gave up 1 ER at that point, and the run scored on a bloop and a few groundouts. He was cruising.~~~

Pitch count, my friend, pitch count. Moose was at his “tank is empty” mark to start the 7th.

~~~Would you prefer pitchers who give up more runs, but just do it by allowing less baserunners?~~~

Base runners are potential runs. If a pitcher doesn’t allow a guy to reach, he’ll never score. It’s the danger that KF and BB bring. They’re a ticking time-bomb each time out. Sometimes, they just get lucky and the bomb does not go off.