• Yankees Bullpen Performance In September

    Posted by on September 26th, 2007 · Comments (4)

    Here are the stats, to date:


    Let’s face it, the only Yankees relievers who can be trusted, now, are Chamberlain and Rivera. Once again, as it has been the case for the last half-dozen years or so, the Yankees pen is extremely weak heading into the post-season…because of the lack of depth and the wear and tear on the guys who were good during the year.

    The best chance that the Yankees have to win any game this October is for their starter to go six or seven inning and then turn the ball over to Joba and Mo. But, you can’t do that everyday…or else then Chamberlain and Rivera will get taxed too.

    It’s not looking pretty…at all.

    Comments on Yankees Bullpen Performance In September

    1. baileywalk
      September 26th, 2007 | 9:44 am

      Boy, you get pessimistic fast. The Yankees are “limping into the post-season” and “it’s not looking pretty”?

      Well, I share your concerns about Vizcaino, and it pisses me off that we find ourselves here once again. Basically ‘Caino started off brilliantly, then got overworked by Torre and was terrible; he was given some time to refresh his arm and was brilliant again — and then Torre overworked him to the point of him literally asking for time off and having shoulder issues. Now he can’t throw a strike. It’s just maddening that Torre repeats his behavior within the season. It’s one thing to do this type of thing season to season. But with the same guy in the same year? Like he didn’t already go through the same scenario with the guy? It’s insane.

      At least Farnsworth has looked (new motion and all) pretty good his last two times out. And I hope they take Ohlendorf with them. Plus Hughes is more than likely going to be working out of the ‘pen. Since (for some bizarre reason I can’t understand because it’s totally illogical) they seem to want him to be a two-pitch pitcher, maybe he’ll be effective airing it out with his fastball and dropping in curves.

    2. September 26th, 2007 | 10:08 am

      But, Hughes does seem to struggle in his first inning of work at times, no? Does that translate to the pen?

    3. Andrew
      September 26th, 2007 | 1:44 pm

      With all the extra off-days included in the postseason, why would be unreasonable for Joba and Mo to pitch in every game? While there are a couple games that are back-to-back, there are none that are three in a row.

      So, even if every series went to the max, that would still be 19 days out of 30 that Joba and Mo would pitch…and if they’re pitching every game, I doubt that the series would go to the max.

      You do not need an especially deep bullpen to succeed in the postseason. It’s a handful of games where you throw out your best players…that’s why there’s all the off-days. There’s no concern for ‘saving your guys’ for the next day, if there’s a slim lead, Joba and Rivera will be in there pitching. You won’t have schmucks like Farnsworth pitching in the 8th with a small lead, because Joba will be available.

      All you really need in the bullpen is a setup man and a closer and a seventh-inning guy. The rest of the crap like Farnsworth and Villone are saved for those innings where you’re either ahead or hopelessly behind…and if the starter gets knocked out in the 4th, well, that’s when you put in your long relievers.

      It’s ridiculous to say that a postseason bullpen is ‘bad’ when it contains the best postseason pitcher of all time, and one of, if not the best setup man in baseball. Those two guys count ten times more than the rest of the assorted crap. Frankly, the Yankees shouldn’t even take 10 pitchers into the playoffs…with all the off-days and the maximum of a 4-man rotation with the possibility of a 3-man, it’s just excessive.

    4. September 26th, 2007 | 3:51 pm

      Andrew – you assume the starters give you 6 or 7 innings. If they only give you 5, like Igawa last night, you need someone before Joba and Mo, and that’s where they will lose the game in October – because of the crappy pen.

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