A-Rod Trained With Canseco In ‘98?

Posted by Steve Lombardi on December 12th, 2007 · Comments (18)

Let’s hope that George Mitchell didn’t interview Mario Alejandro – as the latter has the following story to share:

I won’t get into Ozzie [Canseco’s] batting instruction except to say that was adequate and expensive ($60 per hour). At the end of the session, we walked past Jose [Canseco’s] gym and Ozzie said, “yeah, all the guys come here and work with Jose.”. Out of curiosity I asked who and he said, “Benito Santiago, Alex Rodriguez, pretty much all the Miami guys”.

Ever hear that ol’ logic that says “If you hang around in a barber shop long enough, eventually you’ll get a haircut”?

When is that new Canseco book coming out?

Comments on A-Rod Trained With Canseco In ‘98?

  1. Rich
    December 12th, 2007 | 1:33 pm

    It raises the issue of what quantum of proof has Mitchell decided is sufficient to implicate a player for PED usage in his report, as well as how the MLBPA (and/or independently retained counsel) will respond.

  2. MJ
    December 12th, 2007 | 1:37 pm

    It raises the issue of what quantum of proof has Mitchell decided is sufficient to implicate a player for PED usage in his report, as well as how the MLBPA (and/or independently retained counsel) will respond.
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    Exactly. Guild by association. Canseco/Santiago used ‘roids. Both lived in Miami. Florida had lots of rogue doctors/online pharmacies. A-Rod lives in Florida. Boom, now A-Rod’s in Mitchell’s report.

    The whole Mitchell report was a giant waste of time and launched by Selig and his cronies to push the blame as far away from them and as close to the players and the MLBPA as possible. Shameful.

  3. MJ
    December 12th, 2007 | 1:41 pm

    Sorry, Guild=guilt.

  4. December 12th, 2007 | 1:41 pm

    BTW, by NO WAY – whatsoever – am I suggesting that Alex did anything here. I just found the story on Mario’s blog to be interesting…and thought some here might find it interesting as well.

  5. MJ
    December 12th, 2007 | 2:17 pm

    Hey, even if Alex DID do something back in 1998, it wasn’t against baseball’s rules back then.

    Bottom line is that the Mitchell Report is a big joke, just like Bud Selig’s tenure as owner/commissioner.

  6. butchie22
    December 12th, 2007 | 2:25 pm

    Arod did steroids back in the day?Even if he did so what,who hasn’t and no one can say for sure that he is still taking them.Jose’s book will probably have a weak story about Arod doing something or even asking about them.That is my hope……….

  7. baileywalk
    December 12th, 2007 | 2:31 pm

    Good God. Why are you giving credence to some attention-seeking person who has no proof of anything? So what — Ozzie (!) Canseco CLAIMS A-Rod was around two steroids users. And that means what? It means nothing. It’s also potential bullshit and very obviously hearsay. For all we know Ozzie was lying, or this guy is lying. Jose got a ton of press saying he had info on Alex — and not a single person came forward to say that Alex and Jose hung out, trained or even knew each other. But this guy knew and didn’t say anything then? It was common knowledge and ESPN and other media outlets didn’t mention it?

    I call pure bullshit on this.

    “So A-Rod was hanging out at Jose’s house way back in 1998? What’s to say he didn’t start juicing there and then? That was the year Alex had his first 40 home run season. Anyways, for proof I am posting a picture of the business card, which I laminated and carry around in my wallet. Sad? Indeed.”

    The only sad thing is that he thinks this is proof of something — or more likely that this claim somehow makes him important.

    And by the way, Steve, how are you not suggesting Alex did steroids? You write “Ever hear that ol’ logic that says ‘If you hang around in a barber shop long enough, eventually you’ll get a haircut’?” Well, isn’t that just saying “if you hang around steroid users you will use steroids”? I would say that’s very much a suggestion he did steroids. Not a claim, nothing definitive, but certainly a suggestion. I would say that analogy defines “suggestion,” actually.

  8. baileywalk
    December 12th, 2007 | 2:33 pm

    Also, this guy says “‘98 was his first 40-home run season.” Yeah, at 22 in his third full season as a big-leaguer. And he hit 36 as a 20-year-old in 1996. Again, this guy sounds like he’s totally full of it.

  9. December 12th, 2007 | 2:50 pm

    ~~~You write “Ever hear that ol’ logic that says ‘If you hang around in a barber shop long enough, eventually you’ll get a haircut’?” ~~~

    FWIW, that was an attempt at a joke.

  10. Raf
    December 12th, 2007 | 2:52 pm

    BTW, by NO WAY – whatsoever – am I suggesting that Alex did anything here.
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    FWIW, I didn’t read it that way.

  11. December 12th, 2007 | 3:09 pm

    Of course you didn’t Raf – how else would you then be able to get on me about it? {wink}

  12. Raf
    December 12th, 2007 | 3:25 pm

    Well, to change course;

    Tejada to the Stros

    Fukudome to the Cubs

  13. December 12th, 2007 | 3:28 pm

    First of all, thanks for the link to my post. It was not meant to be taken as factual just because of what Ozzie said. Besides, all he mentioned is that a bunch of major leaguers worked out there with Jose, as a way to brag, I believe. I asked him who out of curiosity, not as a way to find out any secret information. This is before this whole Steroid thing took over baseball.

    That being said, I do believe A-Rod is a Juicer. We may not find out tomorrow at 2 PM when the Mitchell report drops, we may not even find out before he hits his 800th homerun in a few years but one day it will be out in the open.

    Again, thanks for the link and to BaileyWalk, I responded to your post and will make a retraction. I was foolish to use Wikipedia as my source.

    -Mario Alejandro

  14. ieddyi
    December 12th, 2007 | 3:47 pm

    First the snide comments about Cashman and now reverting to the anti Arod obsession

    Reminds me why I didn’t visit this site for over a year

  15. Pete
    December 12th, 2007 | 4:00 pm

    The saddest thing about this entire situation is that we’ll never get to appreciate ANY player’s performance without someone, somewhere raising an eyebrow about it.

  16. baileywalk
    December 12th, 2007 | 4:21 pm

    Well, congrats on admitting your were wrong. That’s RARE on the Internet. So thumbs-up on the retraction. Sorry I came on like a pitbull, Wax. I hate when accusations fly around without proof. I don’t agree with you about A-Rod being a juicer, however.

  17. Evan3457
    December 12th, 2007 | 6:33 pm

    Re: this…pitiful attempt to turn association into an accusation against A-Rod…

    Yeah, he never hit 40 HRs before 1998.

    But he turned 22 in 1998. Has anyone ever heard of a ballplayer maturing physically?

    But there’s also this: In 1996, two years before the timeframe for this silly insinuation, and therefore BEFORE hew was “Tainted” by the Cansecos, as a 20-yr old, his 1st full season in the majors, he hit 36 HRs. He also had 54 doubles, a number he hasn’t gotten within 10 of in 11 seasons since. He had over 90 EBH, something he has not done since. He also slugged .631, which, until this season, was his career HIGH, in spite of two 50+ HR seasons in Texas, and two MVP awards.

    Where do we go from here…A-Rod taught Canseco how to juice it up?

  18. Evan3457
    December 12th, 2007 | 6:35 pm

    Well, heck, I didn’t see Mario recant before I posted my little screed.

    Sorry for piling on.

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