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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/02/22/projecting-the-back-end-of-the-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-27768</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot me now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_27768','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_27768"><p>Shoot me now.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/02/22/projecting-the-back-end-of-the-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-27767</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duck season,
Rabbit season,
Lombardi season?
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Rabbit season,<br />
Lombardi season?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/02/22/projecting-the-back-end-of-the-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-27766</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG.  You guys act like I said this is truth about to happen.

Chill, I&#039;m just sharing the data in their report.  I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s flawless and going to happen, without fail.

It&#039;s a projection.  That&#039;s an estimate.  It&#039;s a guess.  And, it&#039;s not even my guess.

Put the swords down, OK?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_27766','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_27766"><p>OMG.  You guys act like I said this is truth about to happen.</p>
<p>Chill, I&#8217;m just sharing the data in their report.  I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s flawless and going to happen, without fail.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a projection.  That&#8217;s an estimate.  It&#8217;s a guess.  And, it&#8217;s not even my guess.</p>
<p>Put the swords down, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Yu Hsing Chen</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/02/22/projecting-the-back-end-of-the-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-27765</link>
		<dc:creator>Yu Hsing Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you DO understand how projections work don&#039;t you? it&#039;s the MEANES, it means that it&#039;s the middle ground between &quot;hurt for the whole season and or completely fall apart&quot; to &quot;career year&quot; ususally a good player obviously have more room to fall then to go up. that&#039;s pretty obvious.

Let&#039;s take PECOTA for example. it predicted Wang to lead the team with 12 wins, if that&#039;s taken litterally then the Yankees are fucked, but the truth is it predicted the Yankees to win the AL east.

it&#039;s REALETIVE. you need to LOOK AT WHAT THE OVERALL CONTEXT IS. and not just throw it out like the actual season final line.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Yu Hsing Chen');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_27765','Yu Hsing Chen');" /></div><span id="co_27765"><p>Steve, you DO understand how projections work don&#8217;t you? it&#8217;s the MEANES, it means that it&#8217;s the middle ground between &#8220;hurt for the whole season and or completely fall apart&#8221; to &#8220;career year&#8221; ususally a good player obviously have more room to fall then to go up. that&#8217;s pretty obvious.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take PECOTA for example. it predicted Wang to lead the team with 12 wins, if that&#8217;s taken litterally then the Yankees are fucked, but the truth is it predicted the Yankees to win the AL east.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s REALETIVE. you need to LOOK AT WHAT THE OVERALL CONTEXT IS. and not just throw it out like the actual season final line.</p>
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		<title>By: singledd</title>
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		<dc:creator>singledd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are TOO MANY mistakes/problems to even address:
1) Just to start, there are 160+ Ws and 160+ loses
2) Clemens has 7 Wins
... how many ERRORS can you spot?

Steve, you need to check your data before you post garbage.

TEAM	PITCHERS	wins	Loses
NYY	Albaladejo, J	3	4
NYY	Britton, Chris	2	2
NYY	Bruney, Brian	2	2
NYY	Chamberlain, J	9	7
NYY	Clemens, Roger	7	5
NYY	DeSalvo, Matt	5	8
NYY	Farnsworth, Ky	3	2
NYY	Giese, Dan	2	3
NYY	Hawkins, LaTroy	3	3
NYY	Henn, Sean	2	3
NYY	Horne, Alan	6	9
NYY	Hughes, Phil	10	6
NYY	Igawa, Kei	5	5
NYY	Karstens, Jeff	5	6
NYY	Kennedy, Ian	7	5
NYY	Marquez, J	7	11
NYY	McCutchen, D	6	9
NYY	Mussina, Mike	11	9
NYY	Ohlendorf, Ross	4	5
NYY	Pavano, Carl	3	4
NYY	Pettitte, Andy	14	10
NYY	Phillips, Heath	3	7
NYY	Ramirez, Edwar	3	2
NYY	Rasner, Darrell	3	4
NYY	Rivera, Mariano	4	3
NYY	Sanchez, H	5	5
NYY	Traber, Billy	3	3
NYY	Veras, Jose	2	3
NYY	Villone, Ron	2	2
NYY	Wang, CM	15	8
NYY	Whelan, Kevin	4	4
NYY	Wright, Chase	6	9
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('singledd');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_27764','singledd');" /></div><span id="co_27764"><p>There are TOO MANY mistakes/problems to even address:<br />
1) Just to start, there are 160+ Ws and 160+ loses<br />
2) Clemens has 7 Wins<br />
&#8230; how many ERRORS can you spot?</p>
<p>Steve, you need to check your data before you post garbage.</p>
<p>TEAM	PITCHERS	wins	Loses<br />
NYY	Albaladejo, J	3	4<br />
NYY	Britton, Chris	2	2<br />
NYY	Bruney, Brian	2	2<br />
NYY	Chamberlain, J	9	7<br />
NYY	Clemens, Roger	7	5<br />
NYY	DeSalvo, Matt	5	8<br />
NYY	Farnsworth, Ky	3	2<br />
NYY	Giese, Dan	2	3<br />
NYY	Hawkins, LaTroy	3	3<br />
NYY	Henn, Sean	2	3<br />
NYY	Horne, Alan	6	9<br />
NYY	Hughes, Phil	10	6<br />
NYY	Igawa, Kei	5	5<br />
NYY	Karstens, Jeff	5	6<br />
NYY	Kennedy, Ian	7	5<br />
NYY	Marquez, J	7	11<br />
NYY	McCutchen, D	6	9<br />
NYY	Mussina, Mike	11	9<br />
NYY	Ohlendorf, Ross	4	5<br />
NYY	Pavano, Carl	3	4<br />
NYY	Pettitte, Andy	14	10<br />
NYY	Phillips, Heath	3	7<br />
NYY	Ramirez, Edwar	3	2<br />
NYY	Rasner, Darrell	3	4<br />
NYY	Rivera, Mariano	4	3<br />
NYY	Sanchez, H	5	5<br />
NYY	Traber, Billy	3	3<br />
NYY	Veras, Jose	2	3<br />
NYY	Villone, Ron	2	2<br />
NYY	Wang, CM	15	8<br />
NYY	Whelan, Kevin	4	4<br />
NYY	Wright, Chase	6	9</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/02/22/projecting-the-back-end-of-the-rotation/comment-page-1/#comment-27763</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from Washington Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the win projections for the Sox&#039;s back of the rotation are similar:

Wake, 11 wins. Buccholz, 10 wins, Lester: 8 wins, Schilling, 10 wins.

Add Chamberlain&#039;s 10 wins, and basically their four match our four.

It seems, however, that projection systems have a difficult time projecting wins.
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<p>Wake, 11 wins. Buccholz, 10 wins, Lester: 8 wins, Schilling, 10 wins.</p>
<p>Add Chamberlain&#8217;s 10 wins, and basically their four match our four.</p>
<p>It seems, however, that projection systems have a difficult time projecting wins.</p>
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