• Hey, It Happens

    Posted by on April 29th, 2008 · Comments (13)

    21-year old Phil Hughes, who’s in his second big league season, got knocked out of his start this evening for the Yankees – lasting just 3.2 innings pitched.

    This was the third time in five non-rain impacted games this season where Hughes was unable to log at least four innings in his start.

    Did you know that, in 1987, then 21-year old Greg Maddux, in just his second season in the majors, had 7 starts for the Cubs (out of his 27 starts that season) where he failed to retire 12 batters. Seven out of twenty-seven. Do the math – that’s better than one out of every four starts.

    When you press 21-year old kids into starting rotation duty, things like this – meaning guys getting undressed on the mound – are going to happen (with some frequency).

    If you want to blame someone for this happening, remember, it’s not the kid’s fault that he’s a kid. Instead, blame the team for being in a position where they had to ask the kid to be a member of their starting rotation at such a young age – where you know that you’ll have to deal with his learning curve.

    Comments on Hey, It Happens

    1. Zack
      April 29th, 2008 | 10:52 pm

      Holy crap, Steve, did you really write that? A rational and tempered analysis that asks for patience and offers historical support? Amen brother, AMEN!

    2. Rich
      April 30th, 2008 | 1:14 am

      Hughes sucked tonight. There I said it, but why Girardi paired him with Stewart and had Damon in CF is beyond me.

      These impotent bats are pissing me off.

    3. yankees76
      April 30th, 2008 | 1:30 am

      It would be better if we weren’t trying to break two youngsters in at the same time. It puts a lot of pressure on Wang, Pettitte and Moose. Fortunately, Moose has straightened it out the last two starts. We’ll how long he can sustain that. I’m a little surprised about the lack of success from Hughes and Kennedy. They both pitched well at times last year, and I expected both to have at least a couple of really good outings, mixed in with some stinkers. This just seems all pretty crappy.

    4. Don
      April 30th, 2008 | 2:44 am

      You guys wanted Girardi, now enjoy the new baseball genius. Me, I never saw it. Resting a 23 year old in April, and putting in an old man in CF. Clueless Joe, eh.

    5. jeter96
      April 30th, 2008 | 4:13 am

      As fans, we cant have it both ways. You cant talk about how great Hughes will be and look how young he is.
      Only to then use his age as an excuse.

      The kid only has to be average. Heck, he can be below average and we’ll still be able to win games for him.
      But at the moment, he is death and regardles of his age. ”Death” is not acceptable.

    6. Rich
      April 30th, 2008 | 8:21 am

      I still want Girardi. I’m merely fair and balanced.

    7. MJ
      April 30th, 2008 | 8:24 am

      You guys wanted Girardi, now enjoy the new baseball genius. Me, I never saw it. Resting a 23 year old in April, and putting in an old man in CF. Clueless Joe, eh.
      =========================================
      Very fair criticism.

      I had my share of complaints with Torre but I did want Girardi over Mattingly. That being said, Girardi has underwhelmed me so far. Managers are human and they make mistakes (some more than others).

    8. April 30th, 2008 | 8:35 am

      Let’s not forget who put this starting staff together.

    9. Joel
      April 30th, 2008 | 9:29 am

      “Hey it Happens”…

      Yes it does happen. Fans and organizations fall in love with prospects who don’t turn out to be stars. And to make things worse, organizations sometimes fall in love so much that they don’t trade prospects for even the best pitcher in baseball.

    10. Rich
      April 30th, 2008 | 12:07 pm

      Let’s not forget who put this starting staff together.
      =================

      Yup, and let’s not forget that person in a few months, or even a few years, from now when the young pitchers from the foundation of an elite rotation.

    11. April 30th, 2008 | 12:49 pm

      Sure Rich. Just like we should be remembering him now, for all the great work in 2000:

      http://tinyurl.com/6ygq9m

    12. EdB
      April 30th, 2008 | 2:13 pm

      Considering everything the team has gone through from injuries, schedule, horrible pitching. Where they sit right now really isn’t that bad. Boston isn’t off to the same hot start yet so things can still fall into place.

    13. Rich
      April 30th, 2008 | 3:44 pm

      Sure Rich. Just like we should be remembering him now, for all the great work in 2000:
      =======

      My point is simply this: since Cash only deserves partial credit (as well as blame) for the moves that took place before he was given additional authority in 2005, which, btw, include three WS championships during his watch, I propose that we re-start the assessment clock on his body of from 2005 on, but in doing so, in light of his emphasis on prospect acquisition and development, we should afford him several years so that his plan can be viewed in context.

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