I made the closer comparison, but you said that comparing it to a closer closing out a game is silly, implying it would be okay in one situation (for the closer) and not in the other (for Joba).

And I guess all things being considered, I suppose it’s better to be all wet than a know-it-all, bitter prick.

You used closers to compare, not me. And I doubt too many celebrate that much if they have a bases empty three out save with a three run lead. So either way, you’re all wet.

Hey, I do believe that Wagner is a dumb-ass. But, even a dumb-ass like him knows that there’s a way to play the game on the field without showing up the other team – thanks to the Biggio speech. That, was my point.

And even more ironic, you use Wagner as an example of how you’d like Joba to act like, what, a week after he throws his own teammate under the bus after a bad outing? I get what you’re trying to say Steve, even if I don’t agree with it, but using Wagner as a model isn’t the best idea.

FWIW, of all people, red-neck Billy Wagner had the perfect take on the Joba thing.
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Jeez, dude. Hear of irony? You object to Joba over-celebrating on a strikeout, but you’re willing to call Billy Wagner a redneck, which is (if you didn’t know) a derogatory term? (And say “of all people,” because “rednecks” are classless animals, right?)

I’m not getting on a high horse or anything, Steve, but the irony did give me a good laugh.

FWIW, of all people, red-neck Billy Wagner had the perfect take on the Joba thing.

When Joba did it the 1st time, Wagner was interviewed on TMKS on ESPN Radio…and told a story where he was a rookie with the Astros where he did something like what Joba did…and, when he got to the bench, Craig Biggio said to him “What are you celebrating like wild for? You got the guy out. That’s YOUR JOB. It’s what you’re SUPPOSED to do. You didn’t do anything special.”

And, according to Wagner, that day, he learned his lesson.

It’s too bad the Yankees don’t have someone to play Biggio here.

Comparing that to a closer who is closing a game is silly, at best.
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“Closing” out a game could mean pitching with a three-run lead, which is exactly what Joba was doing. I wouldn’t suggest anything “silly” like you didn’t know that, because it would be belittling and petty.

The Joba reaction was for a meaningless strikeout, a strikeout that did not end the game. Comparing that to a closer who is closing a game is silly, at best.

Ca$hman erred on Igawa, then compounded his error by not letting the Padres have him last year. A slippery slope from the GM. Drink that Kool-Aid.

Uh…no. I’d rather have the Joba reaction every time. It means he’s pitched well, and chances are we’re winning.

PS – Well Said Bailey

Everyone has a different style. But in the end — who… effing… CARES?

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Steve evidentally. Other than that I think only people calling sports talk shows on the radio. In my opinion there’s no better group in existence to make me confident mankind will reach the next millenium.