May 13
The Yankees record this season when A-Rod was in the line-up: 12-12
The Yankees record this season, so far, when A-Rod does not play: 7-8
Just think, if A-Rod had never got hurt, the Yankees would now be a .500-team!
19 Responses to “Yeah, The Yankees Really Miss A-Rod”
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May 13th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Wow, Steve. Really??
May 13th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Really Keith.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Why even try implying that the Yankees are the same team without A-Rod? It makes no sense whatsoever.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
That’s not what I’m saying here.
Everyone, or, at least, many, want to pin the Yankees bad record on A-Rod being out. But, my point here is that they were just as bad when he was playing.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is again fallacious. When A-Rod was playing, other guys were not hitting. Those guys have started hitting, and have replaced A-Rod’s production, but they remain roughly the same because now you are missing his production. If A-Rod were on the team during this time, he would have added to the production, and they would have been better.
I see where an avowed A-Rod hater like yourself can twist things to make this work, but if you actually think about it logically – something you should look into once in a while – it makes absolutely no sense.
Why not talk about Posada? His split is even more pronounced. In games where Posada has appeared, the Yankees are 7-11. When Posada does not play, the Yankees are 12-9. Do you really think the Yankees are a better team with Molina/Moeller/Stewart instead of Posada?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Better, no? But, the record somewhat suggests that Posada, alone, being out has not caused this huge hole that’s dragging the Yankees down.
The Yankees are a .500 team, not because Posada and A-Rod are out, but, because Jeter, Abreu, Giambi, Pettitte and Mussina have not played up to their pay grade.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Sure, but can you really say in full conscience that the Yankees would not be any better if Posada and Alex replaced Molina/Moeller and Ensberg/whoever? Come on. The Yankees would be a vastly superior team, offense-wise, if those replacements were made. The replacements for Posada and A-Rod have the largest falloffs, due to the dearth of quality catchers, and A-Rod’s aweseometude.
They miss him, trust me. And so do I.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
FWIW, A-Rod and Posada were not on fire when they played. Posada had 0 RCAA and, IIRC, A-Rod had 3 RCAA. (Don’t know about their VORP.)
So, it’s not like the guys replacing them, so far – and I stress so far, had a monster bar to aim for…
May 13th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
So, should you go by the sample of less than 100PA this season or their respective careers when projecting how productive Arod and Posada would have been had they not been hurt?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I would call this a passive aggressive post.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
because Jeter, Abreu, Giambi, Pettitte and Mussina have not played up to their pay grade.
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Judging a player by their pay grade is why we’ve seen the spawning of tens of thousands of morons who believe the Yankees should win the World Series every year.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
“FWIW, A-Rod and Posada were not on fire when they played. Posada had 0 RCAA and, IIRC, A-Rod had 3 RCAA.
So, it’s not like the guys replacing them, so far – and I stress so far, had a monster bar to aim for…”
You think an .800 OPS from Molina, a career backup catcher, isn’t a lot to ask? And an .820 OPS from whatever combination of third basemen? Sheesh. Molina, at least, was always going to be a big step down offensively. Ensberg hasn’t exactly lived up to expectations, but it would have been a miracle, and one of the scrap heap pickups of the year, if he had managed an .820 OPS.
The team lost a good amount of production from their top two offensive players. To try and argue that they wouldn’t have made a difference, and indeed that they won’t make a difference upon their return, by stating win loss records of the team over a course of 20 games is one of the most egregious misuse of statistics you’ve had yet. And you’ve had some doozies.
I agree with Raf, by the way. I realize that I keep coming back because this stuff is entertaining, not because it’s particularly intelligent – much like reading ESPN articles, or reading chats by Joe Morgan. The articles that get the most traffic are usually the ones that are the most egregiously stupid.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I meant I agreed with Basura, not Raf, on the reasons to keep coming back and commenting.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I would call this a passive aggressive post.
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I thought it to be more tongue in cheek
May 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Judging a player by their pay grade is why we’ve seen the spawning of tens of thousands of morons who believe the Yankees should win the World Series every year.
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Any particular reason why the Yanks shouldn’t win the world series every year? Or at the very least put themselves in a position to win it every year?
May 13th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I thought it to be more tongue in cheek
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If so, my bad.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
“Any particular reason why the Yanks shouldn’t win the world series every year? Or at the very least put themselves in a position to win it every year?”
Hell, why should they ever lose a game?
May 14th, 2008 at 11:21 am
AndrewYF, you missed the point of my post. The level of expectations here are a bit different than in, say, Pittsburgh. Every year, the Yanks are expected to contend for a world series, and every year that they make the playoffs, they’re in a position to win the series.
If they’re good enough to make the playoffs, after a 162 game season, they’re good enough to win the world series.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
If they’re good enough to make the playoffs, after a 162 game season, they’re good enough to win the world series.
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Raf, I agree to an extent. The Yanks have been one of the eight best teams in baseball every single year since 1995 and in many of those seasons, they have been baseball’s best team. Where I don’t agree is in the difference between being “goood enough to win” every year and having the expectation that they should win every year.
My comment (the one you responded to) was about how folks believe that because the Yanks have the highest payroll that this should automatically translate to a championship every season. I’ve never understood why people want to so closely link pay to wins since a lot of pay is retrospective to performance (eg the latter half of Bernie Williams’s contract or what A-Rod will look like 5-6 years fro now).
I hope you are getting what I’m saying. I feel like I’m not expressing myself well.