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	<title>Comments on: Kennedy, The Morning After</title>
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		<title>By: bfriley76</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/05/23/kennedy-the-morning-after/comment-page-1/#comment-31051</link>
		<dc:creator>bfriley76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a flawed definition of &quot;insult&quot; Steve. I could be talking on another Yankee board and say you&#039;re  an idiot (I don&#039;t actually think that...I&#039;m just making a point) and even though I&#039;m not talking to you, it&#039;s still an insult. 

Regardless, whether you think its a waste of time to continue this discussion or not is up to you... but it&#039;s something that&#039;s probably going to come up again, since it&#039;s come up in the past. 

I guess the only thing else I&#039;ll say on this is that you should try to remember that criticism doesn&#039;t equal insult, even if it feels like it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('bfriley76');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_31051','bfriley76');" /></div><span id="co_31051"><p>That&#8217;s a flawed definition of &#8220;insult&#8221; Steve. I could be talking on another Yankee board and say you&#8217;re  an idiot (I don&#8217;t actually think that&#8230;I&#8217;m just making a point) and even though I&#8217;m not talking to you, it&#8217;s still an insult. </p>
<p>Regardless, whether you think its a waste of time to continue this discussion or not is up to you&#8230; but it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s probably going to come up again, since it&#8217;s come up in the past. </p>
<p>I guess the only thing else I&#8217;ll say on this is that you should try to remember that criticism doesn&#8217;t equal insult, even if it feels like it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/05/23/kennedy-the-morning-after/comment-page-1/#comment-31050</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty hard to insult someone when you&#039;re not talking to them.  My observations are just that - my opinion expressed into the thin air, here...and I&#039;m not addressing Kennedy, personally - from me to him.

The comments posted here by baileywalk were directed to me personally - that&#039;s the difference, there, to me.

In any event, I&#039;m not going to go back and forth on this...it&#039;s a waste of my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_31050','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_31050"><p>It&#8217;s pretty hard to insult someone when you&#8217;re not talking to them.  My observations are just that &#8211; my opinion expressed into the thin air, here&#8230;and I&#8217;m not addressing Kennedy, personally &#8211; from me to him.</p>
<p>The comments posted here by baileywalk were directed to me personally &#8211; that&#8217;s the difference, there, to me.</p>
<p>In any event, I&#8217;m not going to go back and forth on this&#8230;it&#8217;s a waste of my time.</p>
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		<title>By: bfriley76</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/05/23/kennedy-the-morning-after/comment-page-1/#comment-31049</link>
		<dc:creator>bfriley76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve

Do you consider your original post a personal attack on Kennedy? Because it seems to me that Bailey is doing the exact same thing here with you as you did with Kennedy...making an assumption based on an observation made at a distance. You have no idea what&#039;s actually going on in Kennedy&#039;s head, but you come to the conclusion that because of the brief moments you&#039;re privy to on the ball field, that he has a sense of entitlement. Bailey has no idea is you&#039;re &quot;that guy at the office&quot; but based on your posts here, where you make assumptions about players&#039; personalities or dedication, he assumes that you might be. Either both are personal attacks, and they&#039;re OK because you opened the door by starting the discussion, or neither are, they&#039;re just partially informed opinions. 
Personally, I&#039;m going to vote for the latter.</description>
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<p>Do you consider your original post a personal attack on Kennedy? Because it seems to me that Bailey is doing the exact same thing here with you as you did with Kennedy&#8230;making an assumption based on an observation made at a distance. You have no idea what&#8217;s actually going on in Kennedy&#8217;s head, but you come to the conclusion that because of the brief moments you&#8217;re privy to on the ball field, that he has a sense of entitlement. Bailey has no idea is you&#8217;re &#8220;that guy at the office&#8221; but based on your posts here, where you make assumptions about players&#8217; personalities or dedication, he assumes that you might be. Either both are personal attacks, and they&#8217;re OK because you opened the door by starting the discussion, or neither are, they&#8217;re just partially informed opinions.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;m going to vote for the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night was one of the few times I have observed when Gameday had a pitcher&#039;s velocity at one mph slower than the YES gun reading.</description>
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		<title>By: baileywalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baileywalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s not a personal insult?
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No.  I said you SEEM (come off as) a guy who reads too much into the body language of people he doesn&#039;t know on a personal level and makes baseless assumptions about them.  I was making an analogy -- not saying you were bitter and paranoid.

&quot;The problem with Kennedy is that he has had this up-and-down velocity before, as I posted at RLYW a few days ago.&quot;

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Interesting point, Don.  It would be even more extreme this year then, right?  Because if you believe the guns (or that the guns have been consistent) he&#039;s vacillated between the 86-88 and 88-92 velocity during the year.  Maybe last night was a sign he has found whatever little mechanical twitch he needed to get that extra bite on the fastball.</description>
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&#8212;</p>
<p>No.  I said you SEEM (come off as) a guy who reads too much into the body language of people he doesn&#8217;t know on a personal level and makes baseless assumptions about them.  I was making an analogy &#8212; not saying you were bitter and paranoid.</p>
<p>&#8220;The problem with Kennedy is that he has had this up-and-down velocity before, as I posted at RLYW a few days ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Interesting point, Don.  It would be even more extreme this year then, right?  Because if you believe the guns (or that the guns have been consistent) he&#8217;s vacillated between the 86-88 and 88-92 velocity during the year.  Maybe last night was a sign he has found whatever little mechanical twitch he needed to get that extra bite on the fastball.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Kennedy is that he has had this up-and-down velocity before, as I posted at RLYW a few days ago.

He was at 91-92 in 2005 and had a great year, he was at 87-88 in 2006 and was mediocre, and fell to the Yankees. In 2007 he was back to 91-92 and blew through the minor leagues.
This sesaon, he&#039;s back to 87-88 most times.</description>
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<p>He was at 91-92 in 2005 and had a great year, he was at 87-88 in 2006 and was mediocre, and fell to the Yankees. In 2007 he was back to 91-92 and blew through the minor leagues.<br />
This sesaon, he&#8217;s back to 87-88 most times.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a far bigger sample size of both IPK&#039;s pitching ability and his demeanor to reach any meaningful conclusions. I don&#039;t think he pitched as well as his stat line would indicate last night, but I am higher on his potential than some of the other posters here (and elsewhere).</description>
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		<title>By: OnceIWasAYankeeFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnceIWasAYankeeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a fine line between confidence and unwarranted arrogance, but you should always want to see a pitcher throw with &quot;fear and arrogance&quot; not &quot;fear and more fear&quot; (hello, Kei Igawa).

As to Kennedy&#039;s performance, hey, good job, or at least good final results - 4 BBs and 8 baserunners in six innings notwithstanding.  I remain completely unimpressed with his stuff and cannot imagine anyone who seriously projects him to be higher than an OK number 4 in a rotation.</description>
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<p>As to Kennedy&#8217;s performance, hey, good job, or at least good final results &#8211; 4 BBs and 8 baserunners in six innings notwithstanding.  I remain completely unimpressed with his stuff and cannot imagine anyone who seriously projects him to be higher than an OK number 4 in a rotation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>antone - I suffer from that - the nervous laughing thing.  And, I&#039;ve gotten burned by it because then people think I don&#039;t take things serious enough.  But, with Ian, it&#039;s the smirk...

and, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a nervous thing...when you tie it back to that quote I just mentioned...</description>
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<p>and, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s a nervous thing&#8230;when you tie it back to that quote I just mentioned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed cooper.  That..

&quot;I woke up today and told my wife, &#039;I just have a feeling I&#039;m going to make these guys look stupid.&#039;&quot;

quote was a bit much and poorly timed - even if he did back it up.</description>
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<p>&#8220;I woke up today and told my wife, &#8216;I just have a feeling I&#8217;m going to make these guys look stupid.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>quote was a bit much and poorly timed &#8211; even if he did back it up.</p>
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