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  • Is It Time To Talk About The Decline Of Derek Jeter?

    Posted by on June 10th, 2008 · Comments (8)

    I was just looking at Derek Jeter’s career stats, to date, via the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia:

    YEAR	RCAA	OWP	RC/G	ISO	SEC	BPA	PA
    1995	-2	.342	3.75	.125	.188	.412	51
    1996	3	.511	5.79	.115	.222	.465	654
    1997	10	.544	5.40	.115	.263	.468	748
    1998	35	.653	7.11	.157	.296	.541	694
    1999	77	.772	9.64	.203	.378	.609	739
    2000	35	.644	7.98	.142	.293	.546	679
    2001	32	.640	6.98	.169	.305	.546	686
    2002	23	.610	6.13	.124	.287	.503	730
    2003	24	.649	6.73	.127	.239	.499	542
    2004	14	.565	5.72	.179	.286	.515	721
    2005	28	.620	6.55	.141	.280	.505	752
    2006	52	.715	8.20	.140	.305	.562	715
    2007	19	.586	6.30	.130	.241	.485	714
    2008	-5	.430	4.37	.103	.181	.413	256
    

    Without question, Jeter is having a poor season with the bat – compared to both his own past production and what would be considered “average” production this season, in general.

    As a whole, when you look at Jeter’s season-by-season stats, you have to say that 1999 and 2006 were “career” seasons – and that his 2005 season totals are what you could reasonably expect from him…in a given season.

    So, let’s compare 2008, to date, against 2005:

    YEAR	RCAA	OWP	RC/G	ISO	SEC	BPA	PA
    2005	28	.620	6.55	.141	.280	.505	752
    2008	-5	.430	4.37	.103	.181	.413	256
    

    Yikes. Note the drop in ISO and SEC.

    For those not aware, ISO is isolated power – meaning slugging percentage minus batting average. And, SEC is secondary average – a stat that measures those offensive components that are not measured in batting average. The formula is (TB-H+BB+SB)/AB.

    In a nutshell, this season, to date, Derek Jeter’s batting results have been (about) as effective as Dale Berra’s results were for the Yankees from 1985 to 1986. Is this just a bad season for Jeter, or, are we starting to see the decline of the Yankees Captain?

    I don’t have the answer. But, I think it’s a valid question to have – based on what we’re seeing from Jeter this season.

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    Comments on Is It Time To Talk About The Decline Of Derek Jeter?

    1. Corey
      June 10th, 2008 | 6:30 pm

      if jorge could have last season at his age at his position, i’m not worried about jeter declining. The season is very young, and besides he missed a week’s worth of AB’s due to getting slammed in the hand. He says it didn’t bother him, but he’s lieing. He wouldn’t let his injury cost the yanks any more wins. It still might have.

    2. June 10th, 2008 | 6:51 pm

      Is it possible to see those numbers, except for those seasons up until this point, rather than for the whole season? Just curious.

    3. Corey
      June 10th, 2008 | 7:42 pm

      i’d like to see that as well

    4. June 10th, 2008 | 8:02 pm

      ~~~Is it possible to see those numbers, except for those seasons up until this point, rather than for the whole season?~~~

      You could probably do it using Baseball Musings Day-by-Day database…running one season at a time, from Opening Day until June 9th, and then putting it all together, for his career, in a spreadsheet or something…if you really had the desire to see that…and the time to do it.

    5. JeremyM
      June 11th, 2008 | 9:34 am

      To me, Jeter’s performance has been the elephant in the room. Nobody wants to talk about it, and in a way he’s earned that, but he has been downright terrible. Hopefully he can turn it around, and I’m hopeful he will.

    6. Don
      June 11th, 2008 | 2:07 pm

      I can see a Derek Jeter-less team in 2011. His contract ends in 2010 and really, his days as a SS are numbered, his offense is declining.

    7. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      June 11th, 2008 | 8:06 pm

      I can see a Derek Jeter-less team in 2011. His contract ends in 2010 and really, his days as a SS are numbered, his offense is declining.
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      Seriously? You think that the Steinbrenners will let their Captain and most popular player go play somewhere else? Because you can bet that Jeter won’t retire after the 2011 season, and unlike Theo, the Yankees have never taken a hard look at whether an older player should be brought back and at what cost in $$ and years. So I think its wishful thinking that Yankee fans won’t watch the full decline of Derek Jeter through to the end. The pitching and position prospects better come through because in three years or so, the declines of Posada, Jeter, A-Rod and Mo will be unmistakable.

    8. August 14th, 2008 | 10:10 am

      [...] on June 10, 2008, I once again looked at Jeter’s declining power numbers – this time looking at his production [...]

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