Oh, my God, another velocity thing. Robertson isn’t about his fastball — it’s about his curveball. And not only is Hawkins ineffective — he’s invisible. He’s never used. It’s a wasted roster spot.

Comments like the one above really make me shake my head. There’s a guy on the team right now — Edwar Ramirez — who’s about 110 pounds with his pockets weighed down by rocks and he tops out at 90/91 mph. He seems to be holding his own just fine.

I’m not really sure what his “diminutive” stature has to do with anything. I think stuff is more important than size. Though it was thinking like that that almost turned Pedro into a reliever
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I’m not talking about just stuff here. Its the walks that concern me. I’m sure he can get guys out but if he walks guys at the same MiLB rate in the Majors he’s toast. Guys in MLB tend to be pretty selective compared to the guys in the minors so that might actually get worse. Edwar tends to give up the HR ball but as long as he’s not walking a guy every other inning that 90mph fastball is just fine. Joba’s walk rates as a starter aren’t significantly more impressive than his counterparts but he can get away with it because of the heat and K ability. What happens when MLB hitters decide to lay off Robertson’s curveball in the dirt which is obviously most effective when he’s ahead in the count?

Baileywalk you completely missed the point. I’m not saying he can’t be good, but gawdy numbers aside he may not be quite ready. Its just too soon.

I think Hawkins will get “injured” soon. I wouldn’t mind the draft pick as I think he might be a Type B at the end of the season.

I have to agree with Raf. If two of those guys are still healthy and pitching at league average or better then Hawkins is gone by now.

If he can trade Hawkins, that would be face-saving. Cutting Hawkins shows how dumb it was to sign him [Hawkins].
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Eh? Hawkins was signed to an inexpensive contract, one that would be easy to move or punt if it got to that point.

You can argue that the only reason he’s still on the team is that relievers (Albaladejo, Britton, Bruney) keep getting hurt.

Its okay to be effectively wild at 96mph but that won’t fly for a somewhat dimunitive reliever that sits at 90mph.
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Oh, my God, another velocity thing. Robertson isn’t about his fastball — it’s about his curveball. And not only is Hawkins ineffective — he’s invisible. He’s never used. It’s a wasted roster spot.

Comments like the one above really make me shake my head. There’s a guy on the team right now — Edwar Ramirez — who’s about 110 pounds with his pockets weighed down by rocks and he tops out at 90/91 mph. He seems to be holding his own just fine.

I’m not really sure what his “diminutive” stature has to do with anything. I think stuff is more important than size. Though it was thinking like that that almost turned Pedro into a reliever.

Ca$hman has egg-on-face, that is why.

If he can trade Hawkins, that would be face-saving. Cutting Hawkins shows how dumb it was to sign him [Hawkins].

>> What is Cashman waiting for? >>

Trading deadline…? Timing is everything.

Anybody take a look at his walk rate? Its okay to be effectively wild at 96mph but that won’t fly for a somewhat dimunitive reliever that sits at 90mph. Give him some time. There are several other relievers in Scranton that might not have the upside but are nearing their ceilings and could be useful right now without taking away from their development (basically everyone in Scranton but Robertson and White).

bailey, that was a play off of the other post… meant to be a joke.

i agree; given his performance, he deserves a callup, but i agree they were letting him work out some control issues.

he isnt long for Scranton, and we’ll be seeing him shortly, id imagine.

Okay, this idea, started by SNY, I guess, that every prospect not promoted is being kept in the minors to increase trade value is not credible. Could we stop repeating it, maybe?

Robertson wasn’t just promoted — he’s been there for a while; he has almost 30 IP there. He had a mild problem with control when he first arrived, but not anymore. They’re only batting .159 against him! He has 43 strikeouts in those 30 IP. Why in the world are they leaving him down there when Billy Traber and Hawkins are with the big-league club? This is the type of guy who can become your setup man. And with the success of Edwar and Veras, this should be a no-brainer.