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	<title>Comments on: Hughes:  Slowest.Healer.Ever?</title>
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		<title>By: sonnymooks</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35218</link>
		<dc:creator>sonnymooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GatorGossage,

 He initially had a story about how he hurt it, then backtracked, and didn&#039;t know how he hurt (but could guess) it, it was also labeled at least 3 different ways as being a rib injury.

The last version is that he was just pitching and it just cracked on its own, and he didn&#039;t know it until later on, or it could have been hurt some other time, and he found out about it while pitching.

I.E. Bullcrap, I like Hughes, I think this is going to be one of those stories we&#039;ll find all the details about sometime a few years down the road.</description>
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<p> He initially had a story about how he hurt it, then backtracked, and didn&#8217;t know how he hurt (but could guess) it, it was also labeled at least 3 different ways as being a rib injury.</p>
<p>The last version is that he was just pitching and it just cracked on its own, and he didn&#8217;t know it until later on, or it could have been hurt some other time, and he found out about it while pitching.</p>
<p>I.E. Bullcrap, I like Hughes, I think this is going to be one of those stories we&#8217;ll find all the details about sometime a few years down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35215</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone heard anything on sheppard? Will he be announcing the all-star game? that would be awesome</description>
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		<title>By: GatorGossage</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35179</link>
		<dc:creator>GatorGossage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the injury was reported as a &quot;stress fracture.&quot;  By definition, stress fractures result from repeated stress - so it is unlikely that Hughes would remember how it occurred.</description>
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		<title>By: GatorGossage</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35174</link>
		<dc:creator>GatorGossage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you getting the 4-6 week figure?  A quick search of the web shows that 6-8 weeks is the more commonly cited figure.  

But does that figure include rehab time, or just the time it takes before rehabbing can begin?  I would expect that they would want to be very careful with pitchers to ensure that they can throw without any pain at all, since throwing with pain can lead to mechanical changes that could result in other injuries.  

Moreover, the &quot;three months&quot; that you complain about is not total healing time, it&#039;s healing time plus rehab - which is different.  A pitcher can&#039;t simply go from not throwing to pitching in a major league game without risking injury.  Why do you think they have spring training?</description>
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<p>But does that figure include rehab time, or just the time it takes before rehabbing can begin?  I would expect that they would want to be very careful with pitchers to ensure that they can throw without any pain at all, since throwing with pain can lead to mechanical changes that could result in other injuries.  </p>
<p>Moreover, the &#8220;three months&#8221; that you complain about is not total healing time, it&#8217;s healing time plus rehab &#8211; which is different.  A pitcher can&#8217;t simply go from not throwing to pitching in a major league game without risking injury.  Why do you think they have spring training?</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35161</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you buy a solid #2 on the FA market, it will cost $15m/yr. A #3 might cost $11m-$12m. To have a cost controlled kid like Phil, who could easily be a #3 and maybe a #2, is worth ell over $100m.

I don&#039;t know his story, but he was rushed to the Bigs last year in an attempt to win. The Yankees still want to win this year. My guess is the Yankees will bring him back as soon as they feel they safely can.

It&#039;s silly Steve to wonder if this is truly a 12 wk injury or only a 8 week injury. Ribs do need a while to heal. Not to just walk around. But to pitch? That puts a lot of tork on a body.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know his story, but he was rushed to the Bigs last year in an attempt to win. The Yankees still want to win this year. My guess is the Yankees will bring him back as soon as they feel they safely can.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s silly Steve to wonder if this is truly a 12 wk injury or only a 8 week injury. Ribs do need a while to heal. Not to just walk around. But to pitch? That puts a lot of tork on a body.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35153</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Shanoff called, and he asked to have his use of superlatives back.</description>
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		<title>By: sonnymooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonnymooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I like Phil Hughes, I am not buying his story about him not knowing how he hurt his ribs or when it happened.

I don&#039;t know if the Yankees are hiding something about his injury, but I damn sure as hell don&#039;t think he is being straight about how he got (or thinks he got) hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('sonnymooks');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_35152','sonnymooks');" /></div><span id="co_35152"><p>As much as I like Phil Hughes, I am not buying his story about him not knowing how he hurt his ribs or when it happened.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the Yankees are hiding something about his injury, but I damn sure as hell don&#8217;t think he is being straight about how he got (or thinks he got) hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/08/hughes-slowesthealerever/comment-page-1/#comment-35146</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; There need to be some sort of balance struck, given the recent rash of overuse injuries &gt;&gt;

What about if all Yankees prospects jump right into the 8th inning setup role?   ;-)</description>
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<p>What about if all Yankees prospects jump right into the 8th inning setup role?   <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babying pitchers has proven to be foolish. The Yankees, and just about all organizations, are idiots. Pitchers need to pitch.
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There need to be some sort of balance struck, given the recent rash of overuse injuries.</description>
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There need to be some sort of balance struck, given the recent rash of overuse injuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babying pitchers has proven to be foolish. The Yankees, and just about all organizations, are idiots. Pitchers need to pitch.</description>
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