• Edwar Ramirez And Jose Veras

    Posted by on July 10th, 2008 · Comments (6)

    Here’s a look at the Yankees bullpen work, this season to date, sans Joba Chamberlain’s contribution (as he’s a starter now) – with stats via the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia:

    Kyle Farnsworth	3	40	12.38	2.5	40.0
    Mariano Rivera	16	38	6.17	12.5	42.1
    LaTroy Hawkins	-6	29	13.62	1.1	36.1
    Edwar Ramirez	6	28	10.13	2.7	32.0
    Jose Veras	6	28	10.43	2.8	29.1
    Ross Ohlendorf	-10	25	15.75	1.9	40.0
    Billy Traber	-1	15	16.03	1.2	10.2
    Brian Bruney	3	9	11.12	2.0	11.1
    Dan Giese 	4	8	8.87	2.7	22.1
    Jon Albaladejo	1	7	13.83	2.2	13.2
    Chris Britton	2	4	9.00	0.5	7.0
    David Robertson	1	4	12.00	2.5	6.0
    Scott Patterson	0	1	20.25	1.0	1.1

    Mo Rivera has been, well, Mo Rivera – and then some. He’s really off-the-charts good, so far, this season. The bulk of the heavy lifting, around Mo, has been done by five guys (to date):

    Kyle Farnsworth, LaTroy Hawkins, Edwar Ramirez, Jose Veras and Ross Ohlendorf

    Ohlendorf, albeit due to the way he was used or something else, didn’t work out and has since been replaced by David Robertson. (And, for what it’s worth, so far, Robertson doesn’t appear to be afraid to pitch in the big leagues.)

    LaTroy Hawkins has been terrible and needs to be replaced. (And, if Brian Bruney comes back soon, that could be it for Hawkins.)

    Kyle Farnsworth still allows too many baserunners. But, to his credit, on the whole, he has not been terrible during the first half of the season.

    The real gems in the Yankees pen, during the first half of 2008, have been Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras. Check out their numbers (in the above chart). In terms of workload, controlling the strikezone, and preventing baserunners/runs, they’ve been equally great.

    Veras was a Texas Rangers cast-off who the Yankees picked up in November of 2005. Ramirez was a Los Angeles Angels cast-off who the Yankees picked up in July of 2006. It took two years for these two to pay-off in Yankeeland…but it’s happening now. Brian Cashman deserves a gold star for finding these two on the scrap heap, picking them up, and being patient…waiting for what we’re seeing from them now.

    Many people had concerns about the Yankees bullpen prior to this season. Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras have quelled those concerns – again, for now.

    Then again, we are talking about (ballpark) 30 innings worth of work from each of them.

    Let’s not forget 2005 – when the Yankees had Tanyon Sturtze in their pen…and we were all crediting Brian Cashman for finding him on the scrap heap and bringing him to New York, etc., just about this time that season.

    Yes, by June 28, 2005, Sturtze had thrown 42 innings in 30 games for the Yankees with an ERA of 3.43 (and an OOBP of .277). But, from June 28, 2005 through the end of the 2005 season, Sturtze threw 36 innings in 34 games for the Yankees with an ERA of 6.25 (and an OOBP of .382).

    You never know when the clock will strike midnight with these scrap heap guys. So, we have to be careful before we say that Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras are money in the bank.

    Comments on Edwar Ramirez And Jose Veras

    1. Tex Antoine
      July 10th, 2008 | 8:17 pm

      The difference is now we have a manger who isn’t an imbecile. Torre destroyed Sturtze through overuse.

    2. Raf
      July 10th, 2008 | 9:52 pm

      It wasn’t overuse so much as Sturtze wasn’t all that good.

    3. July 10th, 2008 | 10:13 pm

      Then again, Ramirez and Veras were so “good” that their teams gave up on them, correct?

    4. Don
      July 10th, 2008 | 10:58 pm

      Sturtze, Proctor et al. Big deal, they are dime-a-dozen RH relievers.

      Torre deserves our eternal thanks for not warming Mariano up and then not using him too often. Stop bashing Torre already.

    5. Raf
      July 11th, 2008 | 12:38 am

      Then again, Ramirez and Veras were so “good” that their teams gave up on them, correct?
      When they were let go, they were young enough that they could still develop; Veras was 25, Edwar was 26. Sturtze was 33

      Pitchers are cut for any number of reasons, even more so when they’re RHRP’s which there are no shortage of.

    6. August 10th, 2008 | 9:53 am

      […] Don’t say I didn’t warn you. August 10, 2008 | Filed Under Possible Bad News  […]

    Leave a reply

    You must be logged in to post a comment.