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	<title>Comments on: In Dreams 2</title>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/18/in-dreams-2-2/comment-page-1/#comment-36774</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its 60 million over 5 years, but the Yankees would only be on the hook for about $44 million over 4 years, approximately. so it breaks down to $11 million a year. thats hardly a back breaking salary for a veteran OF who has a little pop in his bat and plays plus defense in CF.

&quot;Matt Cain has been a dissapointment this year and remember that he pitches in the ultimate pitcher’s park, PAC BELL/ATT/SBC Park. His ERA has ballooned to 4.41 this year, what is that in the AL? 5.50? The Yankees right now need certain holes filled(despite spending 209 mill on payroll) and Cain is not needed to make it to the playoffs.&quot;

actually Cain is exactly what id argue the Yankees need to make the playoffs. they can continue to lean on Ponson and Rasner to pitch 2 out of every 5 days and continue to expect results. 

Cain slots back into the 4 spot into the rotation this season, and can eat innings. he&#039;s got much more talent than he&#039;s pitched this year. i think playing for a perennial losing team in SF is killing him, personally.

you arent adding offense to this team. if they cant make the playoffs with Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Arod, Giambi, Posada and Cano, they dont deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('TurnTwo');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_36774','TurnTwo');" /></div><span id="co_36774"><p>its 60 million over 5 years, but the Yankees would only be on the hook for about $44 million over 4 years, approximately. so it breaks down to $11 million a year. thats hardly a back breaking salary for a veteran OF who has a little pop in his bat and plays plus defense in CF.</p>
<p>&#8220;Matt Cain has been a dissapointment this year and remember that he pitches in the ultimate pitcher’s park, PAC BELL/ATT/SBC Park. His ERA has ballooned to 4.41 this year, what is that in the AL? 5.50? The Yankees right now need certain holes filled(despite spending 209 mill on payroll) and Cain is not needed to make it to the playoffs.&#8221;</p>
<p>actually Cain is exactly what id argue the Yankees need to make the playoffs. they can continue to lean on Ponson and Rasner to pitch 2 out of every 5 days and continue to expect results. </p>
<p>Cain slots back into the 4 spot into the rotation this season, and can eat innings. he&#8217;s got much more talent than he&#8217;s pitched this year. i think playing for a perennial losing team in SF is killing him, personally.</p>
<p>you arent adding offense to this team. if they cant make the playoffs with Damon, Jeter, Abreu, Arod, Giambi, Posada and Cano, they dont deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turn Two, bottom line Rowand is making 60 mill for 5 years. 12 mill is not that far off from 15 mill......Anyway 12 is still too much to pay for someone like that anyway. What is Coco Crisp and Ellsbury making? They won a championship with a traded guy(who is cheap) and a homegrown player at center.And Cash and Hal are trying to get away from that type of gluttonous contract.

            The era of the 209 mill payroll is hopefully coming to an end. Cash and Co are spending 70 million more than the second highest payroll (The Tigers) and the Yanks need a bench, fleece Sabean for Cain and have holes all for the exorbitant price of 209 mill? This was 209 million very poorly spent if they have this many holes.

            Matt Cain has been a dissapointment this year and remember that he pitches in the ultimate pitcher&#039;s park, PAC BELL/ATT/SBC Park. His ERA has ballooned to 4.41 this year, what is that in the AL? 5.50? The Yankees right now need certain holes filled(despite spending 209 mill on payroll) and Cain is not needed to make it to the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_36768','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_36768"><p>Turn Two, bottom line Rowand is making 60 mill for 5 years. 12 mill is not that far off from 15 mill&#8230;&#8230;Anyway 12 is still too much to pay for someone like that anyway. What is Coco Crisp and Ellsbury making? They won a championship with a traded guy(who is cheap) and a homegrown player at center.And Cash and Hal are trying to get away from that type of gluttonous contract.</p>
<p>            The era of the 209 mill payroll is hopefully coming to an end. Cash and Co are spending 70 million more than the second highest payroll (The Tigers) and the Yanks need a bench, fleece Sabean for Cain and have holes all for the exorbitant price of 209 mill? This was 209 million very poorly spent if they have this many holes.</p>
<p>            Matt Cain has been a dissapointment this year and remember that he pitches in the ultimate pitcher&#8217;s park, PAC BELL/ATT/SBC Park. His ERA has ballooned to 4.41 this year, what is that in the AL? 5.50? The Yankees right now need certain holes filled(despite spending 209 mill on payroll) and Cain is not needed to make it to the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rowand was actually given an $8 million bonus at the front end of his contract... so he&#039;s owed $8 million for 2009, and then $12 million for the next 3 years.

Matt Cain is a horse. if he&#039;s available, which SF vehemently denies, you get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('TurnTwo');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_36764','TurnTwo');" /></div><span id="co_36764"><p>Rowand was actually given an $8 million bonus at the front end of his contract&#8230; so he&#8217;s owed $8 million for 2009, and then $12 million for the next 3 years.</p>
<p>Matt Cain is a horse. if he&#8217;s available, which SF vehemently denies, you get him.</p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/07/18/in-dreams-2-2/comment-page-1/#comment-36763</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem with getting Rowand is another 15 million on payroll each year. He is a gutty ,gritty impact/clubhouse type of guy but do the Yankees need to pay someone else $15 million a year? Turn Two, Hal and Cashman do care about the money so spending a gazillion dollars on a overglorified/ nice player is a thing of the past. Maybe until CC is signed ...........

Matt Cain? JP Ricciardi originally wanted Cain for Rios and now look at Cain. Cain is no great shakes,if he comes to the AL he might be Dontrelle Jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_36763','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_36763"><p>Problem with getting Rowand is another 15 million on payroll each year. He is a gutty ,gritty impact/clubhouse type of guy but do the Yankees need to pay someone else $15 million a year? Turn Two, Hal and Cashman do care about the money so spending a gazillion dollars on a overglorified/ nice player is a thing of the past. Maybe until CC is signed &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Matt Cain? JP Ricciardi originally wanted Cain for Rios and now look at Cain. Cain is no great shakes,if he comes to the AL he might be Dontrelle Jr.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, Rowand is having a pretty good year, and that contract of his isnt quite as bad as it may appear... and whats money to the yankees anyway? 

he can hold down the fort in CF for the next year or two until AJackson is ready and slide to RF, or we can slide Jackson to RF or LF if Rowand is the better defensive option.

Rowand isnt a great player, but on a good team he&#039;s a solid role player who can balance the lineup on the right side. 

speaking of dreaming, why not include Matt Cain in there for tomorrow night, will ya?</description>
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<p>he can hold down the fort in CF for the next year or two until AJackson is ready and slide to RF, or we can slide Jackson to RF or LF if Rowand is the better defensive option.</p>
<p>Rowand isnt a great player, but on a good team he&#8217;s a solid role player who can balance the lineup on the right side. </p>
<p>speaking of dreaming, why not include Matt Cain in there for tomorrow night, will ya?</p>
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