• Yanks Reportedly Acquire Nady and Marte

    Posted by on July 25th, 2008 · Comments (11)

    Reports suggest that the Yankees have acquired Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for Jose Tabata, Ross Ohlendorf, Phil Coke and George Kontos.

    Two weeks ago, I suggested that the Yankees should consider offering Ian Kennedy and Melky Cabrera in exchange for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte. So, was the actual deal, as reported, better than the one that I suggested?

    George Kontos has promise – as does Phil Coke. But, they’re still far from being stamped as blue-chip prospects. Jose Tabata is a blue-chipper, according to some. But, he is troubled – with a bad attitude. Ross Ohlendorf, for the Yankees, was expendable.

    At first blush, I like this deal for the Yankees. What do you think?

    Comments on Yanks Reportedly Acquire Nady and Marte

    1. jim_mason
      July 25th, 2008 | 9:08 pm

      This is an awesome deal. I am more excited about
      Nady than Marte. Nady has really come into his
      own and is having an all-star season. Being a
      righthander he’ll complement our lineup. Since
      our bullpen has been solid Marte is an upgrade, but lefties are hitting .255 off him this season.
      Thats not lights out. The prospects we gave up:
      Tabata is injury-prone and doesn’t have his head screwed on right, Coke is not a prospect look at his age–he’ll be 26 this year and he is in double A. We know about Ohlendorf and Kontos put
      up great numbers, but doesn’t know how to win. Look at his won-loss record.

    2. July 25th, 2008 | 9:09 pm

      I’m on board. It makes the Yankees better for this year, and probably next year as well. Ohlendorf wouldn’t touch the majors again until next year, since he’s being converted back into a starer.

      Coke and Kontos represent exactly the depth of the Yankees’ minor league system; they might be in the top ten in another organization.

      The Yankees are indeed selling low on Tabata, but that’s not going to make a difference until at least 2010, if not later.

      The Yankees’ bullpen just got scary good.

    3. July 25th, 2008 | 9:20 pm

      FWIW, Tyler Kepner, four weeks ago, reported that the Yanks were using Ohlendorf as a starter in Triple-A so he could develop a third pitch, the splitter.

    4. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      July 25th, 2008 | 9:27 pm

      I don’t think this is a great deal at all, but it probably helps, a little, right now. Marte’s numbers represent a drop compared to recent years, and he actually allows a better batting average to lefties. Is he a useful bullpen arm? Absolutely. Did they desperately need one? I’m not so sure.

      And Nady – this guy is having a great year but otherwise he is essentially a just better than league average hitter in his career, by OPS+. His career OBP is nothing special and his career BA is nothing special. Now, will he hit better than the two rookies that are playing left field now? Almost certainly, so he does represent an upgrade. But if you expect him to hit like this going forward, I think you’ll be disappointed.

      For the prospects given up, they used up depth, which is good. They also used up one of only a handful of every day player prospects in Tabata. Its the one area that the Yankees are lacking, they’ve built up better pitching prospects and fewer position players. And yeah, you don’t want to hear about the Red Sox in this context, but let’s look at the younger position players they’ve developed:

      Pedroia
      Ellsbury
      Youkilis
      Lowrie
      Moss

      The Yankees are getting older, and suffering because of injuries to older players, because they were slower off the bat in drafting position players. That’s just a fact.

      And by the way – Nady plays in LF – does Damon every play left again? And if he’s a permanent DH, where does Posada get his at-bats.

      Finally, Ohlendorf is almost certainly a usable major league pitcher. You just might regret sending him away.

    5. jim_mason
      July 25th, 2008 | 9:27 pm

      We also have Nady and Marte for 2009 as well.
      Per Fox Sports:

      The addition of Nady, a free agent after the 2009 season, protects the Yankees against the potential loss of right fielder Bobby Abreu, who is a free agent after this season.

      Marte’s contract includes a $6 million club option for next season. The Pirates had been planning to decline the option and offer Marte arbitration, preserving their rights to draft-pick compensation if the pitcher left as a free agent. The Yankees will now gain that control.

    6. zukatesta
      July 25th, 2008 | 9:45 pm

      This trade will not be won or lost until Tabata matures. The Yankees may have sold low. On the other hand, they may have decided for themselves that Tabata’s maturity will prevent him from using his ability.

      Organizational depth, a swing-starter, and a wild card is about right for a quality corner and one of the better left handed relievers in the game. Right now this trade is a draw, but in 3-4 years, Tabata will decide who wins the deal.

    7. JJay
      July 25th, 2008 | 10:06 pm

      LOL, typical.

    8. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      July 25th, 2008 | 10:36 pm

      I for one would love to see Nady replace Abreu next season. This guy is a .280 hitter, .330 OBP and doesn’t exactly have anything other than slightly above average power. One good 1/2 season and the Yankees are moved to grab him – I’ll be shocked if this isn’t his career year, and he goes back to being what he is.

    9. JJay
      July 25th, 2008 | 11:22 pm

      Of course he won’t continue to have this success. He doesn’t play for the Red Sox.

    10. DJ21996
      July 25th, 2008 | 11:25 pm

      Hopefully this turns out like the Hanley trade of 2005. Tabata becomes great and Nady/Marte help us win a championship.

      Right now, I would say that it leans in our direction.

    11. July 25th, 2008 | 11:39 pm

      Hey guys, since I just did a more detailed post on the trade, I’m going to close the comments on this one. Please, continue the conversion on this deal in the new post. Thanks!