• Joba’s Wing Still Hurting?

    Posted by on September 30th, 2008 · Comments (5)

    Via George King -

    For the second time inside of two months, Joba Chamberlain experienced discomfort in his valuable right shoulder Sunday at Fenway Park.

    According to several people, Chamberlain said the shoulder was tight after exiting the first game of the doubleheader against the Red Sox when he walked Jason Bay and gave up a ground-rule double to Mark Kotsay in the eighth inning.

    The same people said Chamberlain didn’t appear too concerned about it. However, Chamberlain is the face of the Yankees’ pitching future and the slightest physical problem with him is cause for concern.

    According to a scout who recently tracked Chamberlain, tightness could be why his velocity was down during the final two weeks of the season.

    “He was throwing 91 mph and a lot of sliders,” the scout said of Chamberlain, whose fastball was clocked at 97-98 mph before he spent almost a month on the DL with rotator-cuff tendinitis.

    Hey, maybe Jorge Posada was right?

    Comments on Joba’s Wing Still Hurting?

    1. Evan3457
      September 30th, 2008 | 1:24 pm

      Lemme see if I get this right.

      Joba hurts his shoulder while starting. They give him a month off and bring him back as a reliever.

      Meanwhile, Jorge says they should leave him in the pen, because he’ll get hurt as a starter.

      So he’s back in the pen, and now, the shoulder is bothering him again.

      And this suggests Jorge is right…in exactly what way?

      Is it possible that Joba’s motion (failure to finish properly to decelerate and stopping his arm by hitting it against his body) is going to cause major shoulder problems no matter how he’s used, as was suggested by one of the internet pitching motion analysts (I forget which one) a while back?

      If so, it will blow out in either role. If not, who’s to say using him 34 times a year for 100 pitches, some of which he’ll be able to throw at less than 100% effort is more destructive than throwing 20 pitches a game for 60-70 games a year, most or all of these pitches all out in a tight game (Hold situations)?

      If Joba can be a starter, that’s where you use him. If he blows out his shoulder, pray it can be fixed. I mean, we never see top relievers blow out their arms, do we?

      Sometimes, I think people have never seen a closer except for Mariano.

    2. September 30th, 2008 | 2:30 pm

      ~~And this suggests Jorge is right…in exactly what way?~~

      Posada said that, if you ask Joba to throw 200 IP, he’s going to get hurt..implying that his shoulder could not take the strain of starting.

    3. Don
      September 30th, 2008 | 2:37 pm

      True, simply watching Joba since his return, his stuff is nowhere as dominant as pre-injury. But, as Evan points out, he’s been used exclusively since from the bullpen. So where is there any correlation?

      The guy has/had three, maybe four, quality pitches. That is wasted in the bullpen. Since injuries happen, better to try and leverage Joba as a starter than from the bullpen.

      And in the future, some thinking Joba as Mariano’s replacement, how is being a team’s full time closer going to alleviate stress and strain? That is beyond me.

    4. Corey
      September 30th, 2008 | 6:27 pm

      come on guys, think about this. He’s saying if joba pitches 200 innings he’ll get hurt. Steve is implying that he can’t even pitch 100 innings and not get hurt, how are we supposed to think he can throw 200.

    5. Evan3457
      October 1st, 2008 | 12:34 am

      Yeah, but he only threw 100 innings this year, and he got hurt. Twice. The 2nd time after doing nothing but relieving for a month.

      So now what? Do the Yanks pitch him once a week in relief, saving him for only super duper ooper critical spots?

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