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		<title>By: The MT Curse? How About The Cashman Curse?</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/01/why-bringing-cashman-back-was-a-mistake/comment-page-2/#comment-207548</link>
		<dc:creator>The MT Curse? How About The Cashman Curse?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s either that, or, well, I have to go back to something that I wrote in October of last year: Brian Cashman became Yankees G.M. on February 28, 1998. And, yes, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s either that, or, well, I have to go back to something that I wrote in October of last year: Brian Cashman became Yankees G.M. on February 28, 1998. And, yes, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Taibbi: Brian Cashman, The Bad Lieutenant &#187; WasWatching.com</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/01/why-bringing-cashman-back-was-a-mistake/comment-page-2/#comment-172977</link>
		<dc:creator>Taibbi: Brian Cashman, The Bad Lieutenant &#187; WasWatching.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most know how I feel about Brian Cashman, I&#8217;ll let my past comments on him stand for the record. And, obviously, I think that Tiabbi [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most know how I feel about Brian Cashman, I&#8217;ll let my past comments on him stand for the record. And, obviously, I think that Tiabbi [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Young &#38; Old Yankees Bloggers Share Thoughts : WasWatching.com</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/01/why-bringing-cashman-back-was-a-mistake/comment-page-2/#comment-105076</link>
		<dc:creator>Young &#38; Old Yankees Bloggers Share Thoughts : WasWatching.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] paying attention during that time, you know how long I&#8217;ve been a fan of the team and what my thoughts are regarding the last half-decade of Yankees [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] paying attention during that time, you know how long I&#8217;ve been a fan of the team and what my thoughts are regarding the last half-decade of Yankees [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Productivity, Durability &#38; Consistency Of Abreu : WasWatching.com</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/01/why-bringing-cashman-back-was-a-mistake/comment-page-2/#comment-94667</link>
		<dc:creator>The Productivity, Durability &#38; Consistency Of Abreu : WasWatching.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last four years has not been working. It&#8217;s time for new blood. The team elected not to make a change at the top this off-season. So, cleaning out the players is the only thing left. Therefore, after [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the last four years has not been working. It&#8217;s time for new blood. The team elected not to make a change at the top this off-season. So, cleaning out the players is the only thing left. Therefore, after [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Verducci: Another Year, Another Philosophy, For Yanks : WasWatching.com</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/01/why-bringing-cashman-back-was-a-mistake/comment-page-2/#comment-70297</link>
		<dc:creator>Verducci: Another Year, Another Philosophy, For Yanks : WasWatching.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The signing of CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett this off-season are all on Brian Cashman. Just like the trade for Jeff Weaver. Just like the signing of Carl Pavano. Just like the posting for Kei Igawa. And, when this is all said and done, the results of these two moves (albeit good or bad) belong on Cashman&#8217;s resume. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The signing of CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett this off-season are all on Brian Cashman. Just like the trade for Jeff Weaver. Just like the signing of Carl Pavano. Just like the posting for Kei Igawa. And, when this is all said and done, the results of these two moves (albeit good or bad) belong on Cashman&#8217;s resume. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

If you&#039;re going to bash Cashman at least include all the other horrible trades he&#039;s been involved with.  What about Damaso Marte for Enrique Wilson or D&#039;Angelo Jimenez for Jay Witasick or Brandon Claussen for Aaron Boone?  I don&#039;t remember what we got for Ruben Rivera. I think it was a basket of apples.  What about Contreras for Loaiza?  It just goes on and on.  His trading record is absolutely abysmal. Someone who plays fantasy baseball would have done infinately better.</description>
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<p>If you&#8217;re going to bash Cashman at least include all the other horrible trades he&#8217;s been involved with.  What about Damaso Marte for Enrique Wilson or D&#8217;Angelo Jimenez for Jay Witasick or Brandon Claussen for Aaron Boone?  I don&#8217;t remember what we got for Ruben Rivera. I think it was a basket of apples.  What about Contreras for Loaiza?  It just goes on and on.  His trading record is absolutely abysmal. Someone who plays fantasy baseball would have done infinately better.</p>
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		<title>By: alvarof</title>
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		<dc:creator>alvarof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, as always, you just criticize and get rid of this or should&#039;ve done that. What are the alternatives? OK, Pavano was a big mistake ... weren&#039;t other teams interested back then? Who should&#039;ve he gotten instead? And how, free agency or trade? Easy being a Monday morning quarterback.

Take a cue from an excellent blogger, quite the pessimistic but always puts everything in perspective and always points out to an alternative. From Steve Goldman, Pinstripe Bible or Pinstripe Blog (what a blog and Replacement Level too):
&quot;Cashman has many detractors, most of them focused on his mixed record in trades and the fact that the club has not won a championship since the decline of the 1996-2001 core. This is misguided. First, the club averaged 99 wins from 2002 through 2006 and made the postseason every year. If the team failed to capitalize in those situations, it wasn&#039;t purely due to Cashman&#039;s team design (Joe Torre certainly helped in 2003 and 2007-Jeff Weaver and bugs). He has consistently neglected things like team defense and bench strength, and, most of all, over and over again, the farm. Having said that, I do think the man has evolved over the years. He was literally raised in a Yankees organization that was one of the least progressive in baseball. To his credit, he has seen the old ways fail and learned from watching other organizations. Whether or not he can transcend both his upbringing and the structure of the organization remains to be seen, and he&#039;ll need a lot of luck to boot. Still, it seems like his head is in the right place, on a measured approach rather than the scattershot, every which way but up approach of the Yankees through the 1980s. I don&#039;t think that anyone else would do better, and a good many replacements could be worse.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('alvarof');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_47565','alvarof');" /></div><span id="co_47565"><p>Steve, as always, you just criticize and get rid of this or should&#8217;ve done that. What are the alternatives? OK, Pavano was a big mistake &#8230; weren&#8217;t other teams interested back then? Who should&#8217;ve he gotten instead? And how, free agency or trade? Easy being a Monday morning quarterback.</p>
<p>Take a cue from an excellent blogger, quite the pessimistic but always puts everything in perspective and always points out to an alternative. From Steve Goldman, Pinstripe Bible or Pinstripe Blog (what a blog and Replacement Level too):<br />
&#8220;Cashman has many detractors, most of them focused on his mixed record in trades and the fact that the club has not won a championship since the decline of the 1996-2001 core. This is misguided. First, the club averaged 99 wins from 2002 through 2006 and made the postseason every year. If the team failed to capitalize in those situations, it wasn&#8217;t purely due to Cashman&#8217;s team design (Joe Torre certainly helped in 2003 and 2007-Jeff Weaver and bugs). He has consistently neglected things like team defense and bench strength, and, most of all, over and over again, the farm. Having said that, I do think the man has evolved over the years. He was literally raised in a Yankees organization that was one of the least progressive in baseball. To his credit, he has seen the old ways fail and learned from watching other organizations. Whether or not he can transcend both his upbringing and the structure of the organization remains to be seen, and he&#8217;ll need a lot of luck to boot. Still, it seems like his head is in the right place, on a measured approach rather than the scattershot, every which way but up approach of the Yankees through the 1980s. I don&#8217;t think that anyone else would do better, and a good many replacements could be worse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please try and respect my right to have my opinions on this matter.
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I will, no matter how wrong you are &gt;:(

seriously, cool discussion (with the exception of a couple of people...), and as always we can agree to disagree.

I was kinda hoping we&#039;d make 100 comments in this thread :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_47559','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_47559"><p>Please try and respect my right to have my opinions on this matter.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I will, no matter how wrong you are &gt;:(</p>
<p>seriously, cool discussion (with the exception of a couple of people&#8230;), and as always we can agree to disagree.</p>
<p>I was kinda hoping we&#8217;d make 100 comments in this thread <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raf - Ummm…Brosius hit a pretty big HR in that Series IIRC
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Doesn&#039;t change the fact that he was horrible in that series.  HR or not, a .167-.167-.375 line isn&#039;t going to get it done.

Heck, given some of the backhanded compliments you&#039;ve written, it could be said that it wasn&#039;t so much Brosius hitting the HR, as Kim being a choker ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_47557','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_47557"><p>Raf &#8211; Ummm…Brosius hit a pretty big HR in that Series IIRC<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Doesn&#8217;t change the fact that he was horrible in that series.  HR or not, a .167-.167-.375 line isn&#8217;t going to get it done.</p>
<p>Heck, given some of the backhanded compliments you&#8217;ve written, it could be said that it wasn&#8217;t so much Brosius hitting the HR, as Kim being a choker <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, all, I&#039;ve spent some good chunks of the last 16 hours addressing your comments, questions, etc., on this topic.

I&#039;m going to stop now...as it makes no sense to keep advancing my points.

If you agree with me, fine.  If not, that&#039;s fine too.  I respect your right to have an opinion on this - even if it&#039;s different from mine.

Please try and respect my right to have my opinions on this matter.

Feel free to continue posting your comments on this topic.  Just don&#039;t expect some debate from me...as I&#039;ve already given this as much time as I can at this moment.

And, of course, thanks to all for all the great comments so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_47551','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_47551"><p>FYI, all, I&#8217;ve spent some good chunks of the last 16 hours addressing your comments, questions, etc., on this topic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to stop now&#8230;as it makes no sense to keep advancing my points.</p>
<p>If you agree with me, fine.  If not, that&#8217;s fine too.  I respect your right to have an opinion on this &#8211; even if it&#8217;s different from mine.</p>
<p>Please try and respect my right to have my opinions on this matter.</p>
<p>Feel free to continue posting your comments on this topic.  Just don&#8217;t expect some debate from me&#8230;as I&#8217;ve already given this as much time as I can at this moment.</p>
<p>And, of course, thanks to all for all the great comments so far.</p>
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