OK, so let’s say he’s a year or even two or three(!) behind those other guys.

So he starts winning at 24 or 25? Is that so bad?

I wouldn’t try to gauge the team’s motives based on what they did or didn’t do in September.
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It’s not just what happened in Sept, it’s the whole year in general, from getting hurt, getting shelled, and butting heads with upper management.

Regardless, you don’t think it’s telling that he didn’t pitch an inning in MLB after August? That the organization preferred to start Pavano & Ponson? That he didn’t get a call in Sept? It’s one thing if it were, say, Igawa.

Having said that, I hope the organization doesn’t trade him (not saying that they’re looking to, but still), I think he can help the club.

I haven’t heard anything about him since the SWB playoffs, have you?
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No, come to think of it, I haven’t.

Maybe they are trying to trade him, maybe they aren’t. I wouldn’t try to gauge the team’s motives based on what they did or didn’t do in September.

Do we know for sure that the Yanks have given up on IPK?
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No, but I find it curious that there has been little to no mention of Kennedy.

I haven’t heard anything about him since the SWB playoffs, have you?

Hughes got a few innings in after the playoffs ended. Kennedy hasn’t. I don’t think he even got a callup after the playoffs were over. Even the circumstances surrounding his demotion would imply that the organization isn’t too happy with him for whatever reason.

I am surprised that the organization has given up on Kennedy so quickly. I am curious to see how he will respond, if he isn’t traded during the offseason.
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Do we know for sure that the Yanks have given up on IPK?

Comparing to individual players, on either the positive or negative side, isn’t what’s important.
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Also gives an idea of what to expect, a frame of reference.

I am surprised that the organization has given up on Kennedy so quickly. I am curious to see how he will respond, if he isn’t traded during the offseason.

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I didn’t include post-season starts. But, if one wanted to, that would also bump up the totals for Danks too.

Totally agree. Comparing to individual players, on either the positive or negative side, isn’t what’s important. What’s important is the general theme of being patient even if things don’t go well (or if they do, because it could go from good to bad also) at first.

Yeah…I think the point was to preach patience, and that failure at first doesn’t necessarily mean failure forever.

Well, when it comes to getting your reps, shouldn’t you include the two minor league post-season starts Hughes made, which brings his total up to 16?

And, the kid is going to the AFL where you would expect him to get 4-5 more starts for 2008, putting his total at around 20. That’s not a lost season.

The real comparison should be made between Hughes in 2008 and Pelfrey in 2006. He is still very young.