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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/07/2008-alcs/comment-page-1/#comment-48637</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raf, we agree on something!
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I understand why he may have done it, I don&#039;t necessarily agree with it.  Not a big fan of playing for one run on the road, especially when you have a pitcher that isn&#039;t throwing strikes.</description>
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I understand why he may have done it, I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with it.  Not a big fan of playing for one run on the road, especially when you have a pitcher that isn&#8217;t throwing strikes.</p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
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		<dc:creator>butchie22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antone, I don&#039;t think everything is a conspiracy. That was woefully misstated. That was pure newpeak, but then som people can&#039;t just disagree can they?BUT I am actually a skeptic and if you think that the big teams don&#039;t get the calls then you are living on Ur anus , mate! Maybe, you just watch the YES network mand believe everything Yankee, I have no idea but I tell it like it is. Cash man is a crappy GM, Bill James is brilliant and the Red Pox have the new dynasty.

Anyway, it’s one of those things that if the play’s executed Scioscia’s a genius, and an idiot if he fails… Quote

Raf, we agree on something! Wow, I can&#039;t believe it. Like I have said, the Angels weren&#039;t scoring squat against Boston. This type of bunt makes somthing unsettling happen, if it&#039;s a groundout Pedroia throws home, no? A sacrifice fly?? Del Cramen is a very hard thrower, how do you even know that he could hit it that far? Imagine , if Aybar struck out, then some assholes would have said Scioscia should have had him suicide and play his NL style of ball.</description>
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<p>Anyway, it’s one of those things that if the play’s executed Scioscia’s a genius, and an idiot if he fails… Quote</p>
<p>Raf, we agree on something! Wow, I can&#8217;t believe it. Like I have said, the Angels weren&#8217;t scoring squat against Boston. This type of bunt makes somthing unsettling happen, if it&#8217;s a groundout Pedroia throws home, no? A sacrifice fly?? Del Cramen is a very hard thrower, how do you even know that he could hit it that far? Imagine , if Aybar struck out, then some assholes would have said Scioscia should have had him suicide and play his NL style of ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The count was 2-0…Delcarmen was most likely going to through a fastball in that situation and I believe he did…
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A 2-0 fastball that was another ball.

Scioscia gambled that Delcarmen would throw a strike.  Why he didn&#039;t have Aybar take, or swing away, or even safety squeeze, is beyond me.

Anyway, it&#039;s one of those things that if the play&#039;s executed Scioscia&#039;s a genius, and an idiot if he fails...</description>
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A 2-0 fastball that was another ball.</p>
<p>Scioscia gambled that Delcarmen would throw a strike.  Why he didn&#8217;t have Aybar take, or swing away, or even safety squeeze, is beyond me.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s one of those things that if the play&#8217;s executed Scioscia&#8217;s a genius, and an idiot if he fails&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I agree the Maier call was a bad one, Tino Martinez struck out on the pitch before the GS against the Padres, and that the umpires got the slap tag call as well as the Bellhorn HR&#039;s right.</description>
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		<title>By: antone</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/07/2008-alcs/comment-page-1/#comment-48593</link>
		<dc:creator>antone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Butchie....

#1) Aybar has 9 Sac. bunts the whole season..I find it hard to believe that ALL 9 were SUICIDE SQUEEZES...there is a different between bunting a guy over and a suicide squeeze...if you don&#039;t realize that then you don&#039;t understand baseball.

#2) The count was 2-0...Delcarmen was most likely going to through a fastball in that situation and I believe he did...that gives an advantage to the hitter.  He should have been able to at least get the bat on the ball and pull it to the right side. If not you still have another batter after Aybar to drive in the run.

#3) Yes, Delcarmen is a power pitcher, but let&#039;s not get carried away here and start thinking he is unhittable because he is not. He ain&#039;t Papelbon...he ain&#039;t Mo...and even those guys get hit once in a while.</description>
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<p>#1) Aybar has 9 Sac. bunts the whole season..I find it hard to believe that ALL 9 were SUICIDE SQUEEZES&#8230;there is a different between bunting a guy over and a suicide squeeze&#8230;if you don&#8217;t realize that then you don&#8217;t understand baseball.</p>
<p>#2) The count was 2-0&#8230;Delcarmen was most likely going to through a fastball in that situation and I believe he did&#8230;that gives an advantage to the hitter.  He should have been able to at least get the bat on the ball and pull it to the right side. If not you still have another batter after Aybar to drive in the run.</p>
<p>#3) Yes, Delcarmen is a power pitcher, but let&#8217;s not get carried away here and start thinking he is unhittable because he is not. He ain&#8217;t Papelbon&#8230;he ain&#8217;t Mo&#8230;and even those guys get hit once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raf, when that Jeffrey Mayer call was a home run what was that? The Yanks got many calls in their favor back in their day when they actually had a Dynasty.
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Ok, I see what you&#039;re saying...  MLB had a vested interest seeing that the Yanks then won the series, like they have a vested interest in the Sox winning the series now.

So the Yanks&#039; 3rd place finish isn&#039;t Cashman&#039;s fault, it&#039;s MLB&#039;s fault; after all they&#039;ve implemented rules specifically designed to target the Yanks ;)

Guess someone didn&#039;t get the memos in &#039;05 &amp; &#039;06 :D</description>
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Ok, I see what you&#8217;re saying&#8230;  MLB had a vested interest seeing that the Yanks then won the series, like they have a vested interest in the Sox winning the series now.</p>
<p>So the Yanks&#8217; 3rd place finish isn&#8217;t Cashman&#8217;s fault, it&#8217;s MLB&#8217;s fault; after all they&#8217;ve implemented rules specifically designed to target the Yanks <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guess someone didn&#8217;t get the memos in &#8216;05 &amp; &#8216;06 <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
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		<dc:creator>butchie22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once I was, that was very rude of you. That is an ad hominem attack, But what do I expect from a Benedict Arnold???!!!Once, do you only watch Red Stocking games? I watch a lot of different teams AND the Pox got so many calls this year it was silly.The big teams usually get the calls, it&#039;s as simple as that. You must be naive to think otherwise. Cal Ripken also mentioned the fact that a guy is safe at home when that happens. The spirit of that call was safe, the letter was out.
One more thing, do you think MLB would prefer to have the Stockings and the Hollywood Dodgers rather than the Philly Cheesesteaks or the Artists formerly known as the Devil Rays? ONce was, you probably don&#039;t know about the collusion that goes on in the World Cup and went on in Germany  and Italy regarding refs and the owners fixing calls.Germans are such upstanding and honest people, right? Wrong, the Albanian mafia was colluding with teams to fix games. We also had that NBA ref that was betting and giving crappy calls. So I am very suspicious of MLB umps especially this year where the calls looked like soccer calls during the World Cup. Thank God for the advent of instant replay and that the umps either get new glasses or stop betting(I&#039;m joking or am I). I am not a purist on umps, because the last couples of years they have given calls that are headstratching. Don&#039;t be surprised if you hear anything about MLB ump corruption in the future. If you think that won&#039;t happen, then everyone&#039;s favorite players didn&#039;t do steroids or HGH and no one did speed. Ah, the woefully naive..........

Pete, I call the Rays 3 things: the Sunrays , the Rays of Sunshine or the Artists formerly known as the Devil Rays! It would be fun to see the Cheesesteaks play the SunRays with the Rays coming out on top. BUT I&#039;m waiting for Joe West to try and steal runs from the Sunrays against the Red pox! I can&#039;t wait to see the fight that happens between both teams when Wolf Boy,Pedroia, or Coco&quot; I am not a cereal&quot; Crisp acts up. The Sunrays will get ghetto on their Baked Beaned New England butts......

Antone, the hitter in question was successful at these types of bunts 9 times this year??!!! This was not a fluke call.Del Carmen is hardly a finesse pitcher, so you have to try and get that win any way you can. A sac fly? Isn&#039;t Del Carmen a power pitcher, so what is the guarantee of even hitting the ball. When the Angels are starving for offense (they struggled to come up with those 2 runs) AND a game is on the line, something like a suicide bunt is not out of the question. It wasn&#039;t stupid and it wasn&#039;t a bad call by Scioscia of the LA Assholes of Anaheim Orange County California.

Raf, when that Jeffrey Mayer call was a home run what was that? The Yanks got many calls in their favor back in their day  when they actually had a Dynasty. The big teams in baseball always get the calls. Someone must be ignoring 75% of the games in the MLB if they think otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48569','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_48569"><p>Once I was, that was very rude of you. That is an ad hominem attack, But what do I expect from a Benedict Arnold???!!!Once, do you only watch Red Stocking games? I watch a lot of different teams AND the Pox got so many calls this year it was silly.The big teams usually get the calls, it&#8217;s as simple as that. You must be naive to think otherwise. Cal Ripken also mentioned the fact that a guy is safe at home when that happens. The spirit of that call was safe, the letter was out.<br />
One more thing, do you think MLB would prefer to have the Stockings and the Hollywood Dodgers rather than the Philly Cheesesteaks or the Artists formerly known as the Devil Rays? ONce was, you probably don&#8217;t know about the collusion that goes on in the World Cup and went on in Germany  and Italy regarding refs and the owners fixing calls.Germans are such upstanding and honest people, right? Wrong, the Albanian mafia was colluding with teams to fix games. We also had that NBA ref that was betting and giving crappy calls. So I am very suspicious of MLB umps especially this year where the calls looked like soccer calls during the World Cup. Thank God for the advent of instant replay and that the umps either get new glasses or stop betting(I&#8217;m joking or am I). I am not a purist on umps, because the last couples of years they have given calls that are headstratching. Don&#8217;t be surprised if you hear anything about MLB ump corruption in the future. If you think that won&#8217;t happen, then everyone&#8217;s favorite players didn&#8217;t do steroids or HGH and no one did speed. Ah, the woefully naive&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Pete, I call the Rays 3 things: the Sunrays , the Rays of Sunshine or the Artists formerly known as the Devil Rays! It would be fun to see the Cheesesteaks play the SunRays with the Rays coming out on top. BUT I&#8217;m waiting for Joe West to try and steal runs from the Sunrays against the Red pox! I can&#8217;t wait to see the fight that happens between both teams when Wolf Boy,Pedroia, or Coco&#8221; I am not a cereal&#8221; Crisp acts up. The Sunrays will get ghetto on their Baked Beaned New England butts&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Antone, the hitter in question was successful at these types of bunts 9 times this year??!!! This was not a fluke call.Del Carmen is hardly a finesse pitcher, so you have to try and get that win any way you can. A sac fly? Isn&#8217;t Del Carmen a power pitcher, so what is the guarantee of even hitting the ball. When the Angels are starving for offense (they struggled to come up with those 2 runs) AND a game is on the line, something like a suicide bunt is not out of the question. It wasn&#8217;t stupid and it wasn&#8217;t a bad call by Scioscia of the LA Assholes of Anaheim Orange County California.</p>
<p>Raf, when that Jeffrey Mayer call was a home run what was that? The Yanks got many calls in their favor back in their day  when they actually had a Dynasty. The big teams in baseball always get the calls. Someone must be ignoring 75% of the games in the MLB if they think otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: antone</title>
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		<dc:creator>antone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Sox fan...Butchie always has a conspiracy, so I wouldn&#039;t even bother responding to that. 

As much as I hate to say it, I thought the call was correct because the ball was not knocked loose &quot;during&quot; the tag, it was knocked loose after the tag. 

By the way, this will be the first time since 1987 that the AL will be represented by a team with a losing road record in the World Series.  That year the Twins were a horrific 29-52 on the road.  So this season definitely is not the norm in the AL, but I was starting to wonder if the poor road records of the Rays and Sox have to do with the fact they play in the strong AL East.

Here are their road records in the AL East:

TBR: 16-20 ( at BOS: 2-7)
BOS: 15-21 ( at TBR: 1-8)

Here are their road records against everyone else:

TBR: 24-21
BOS: 24-21

So both teams had a winning road record outside of the division and neither one can beat each other on the road.  Seems like home field is going to be huge in this series.  Whoever can steal a game on the road could end up winning this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('antone');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48567','antone');" /></div><span id="co_48567"><p>Red Sox fan&#8230;Butchie always has a conspiracy, so I wouldn&#8217;t even bother responding to that. </p>
<p>As much as I hate to say it, I thought the call was correct because the ball was not knocked loose &#8220;during&#8221; the tag, it was knocked loose after the tag. </p>
<p>By the way, this will be the first time since 1987 that the AL will be represented by a team with a losing road record in the World Series.  That year the Twins were a horrific 29-52 on the road.  So this season definitely is not the norm in the AL, but I was starting to wonder if the poor road records of the Rays and Sox have to do with the fact they play in the strong AL East.</p>
<p>Here are their road records in the AL East:</p>
<p>TBR: 16-20 ( at BOS: 2-7)<br />
BOS: 15-21 ( at TBR: 1-8)</p>
<p>Here are their road records against everyone else:</p>
<p>TBR: 24-21<br />
BOS: 24-21</p>
<p>So both teams had a winning road record outside of the division and neither one can beat each other on the road.  Seems like home field is going to be huge in this series.  Whoever can steal a game on the road could end up winning this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: OnceIWasAYankeeFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnceIWasAYankeeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve yet to see any sort of serious argument that the call on the tag was anything but correct.  Steve Palermo said it himself:  its not football.  He tagged him and had possession of the ball.  Raf is correct, and Butchie is insane for postulating any sort of &quot;fix&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Red Pox like the Yanks of the 90s get all the calls ~~~~ Baseball is starting to remind me of the WWF and World Cup soccer, fixed , fixed ,fixed…….
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So all those times the Yanks won, does that mean the game was fixed as well? ;)</description>
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So all those times the Yanks won, does that mean the game was fixed as well? <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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