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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48855</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether he helped or hurt Boston is only relevant to Boston.  He wasn&#039;t going to help the Yankees make the playoffs and that&#039;s all that matters.  Getting him just to block Boston would have accomplished very little since, again, the Yanks weren&#039;t catching Boston by adding a league-average 5th starter to their rotation when they were already that many games behind AND still couldn&#039;t score runs consistently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('MJ');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48855','MJ');" /></div><span id="co_48855"><p>Whether he helped or hurt Boston is only relevant to Boston.  He wasn&#8217;t going to help the Yankees make the playoffs and that&#8217;s all that matters.  Getting him just to block Boston would have accomplished very little since, again, the Yanks weren&#8217;t catching Boston by adding a league-average 5th starter to their rotation when they were already that many games behind AND still couldn&#8217;t score runs consistently.</p>
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		<title>By: OnceIWasAYankeeFan</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48773</link>
		<dc:creator>OnceIWasAYankeeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is any question that Byrd helped  the Red Sox out.  A 96 ERA+ is fine from a number five pitcher. He did what was expected:  pitch well enough to give them a chance to win and not get yanked in the fourth inning.  He helped the team you were chasing, and Cash let him through waivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('OnceIWasAYankeeFan');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48773','OnceIWasAYankeeFan');" /></div><span id="co_48773"><p>I don&#8217;t think there is any question that Byrd helped  the Red Sox out.  A 96 ERA+ is fine from a number five pitcher. He did what was expected:  pitch well enough to give them a chance to win and not get yanked in the fourth inning.  He helped the team you were chasing, and Cash let him through waivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48770</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he meant a starter in the lineup? :)</description>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48768</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>his refusal to trade for a starter was ridiculous
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Which starter(s) should he have traded for mid-season?

FYI, Paul Byrd in Boston: 8 GS, 49 IP, 4.78 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, ERA+ 96.

Big deal that the Yanks didn&#039;t grab him.  If you think Paul Byrd was the difference between making and missing the post-season, I&#039;d say you&#039;re probably mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('MJ');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48768','MJ');" /></div><span id="co_48768"><p>his refusal to trade for a starter was ridiculous<br />
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Which starter(s) should he have traded for mid-season?</p>
<p>FYI, Paul Byrd in Boston: 8 GS, 49 IP, 4.78 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, ERA+ 96.</p>
<p>Big deal that the Yanks didn&#8217;t grab him.  If you think Paul Byrd was the difference between making and missing the post-season, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re probably mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: hallofamer2000</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48760</link>
		<dc:creator>hallofamer2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually am a Cash defender, but you are 100% correct.  Although I personally don&#039;t think it was a mistake to rely on Kennedy and Hughes, his refusal to trade for a starter was ridiculous.  He watched Boston pick up Byrd off waivers; he didn&#039;t do anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('hallofamer2000');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48760','hallofamer2000');" /></div><span id="co_48760"><p>I usually am a Cash defender, but you are 100% correct.  Although I personally don&#8217;t think it was a mistake to rely on Kennedy and Hughes, his refusal to trade for a starter was ridiculous.  He watched Boston pick up Byrd off waivers; he didn&#8217;t do anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48744</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS on my last response: why justify the expenditure just because you can when you can just as easily use that money to develop young, cost-controlled arms that can be horses at $300K a year instead of $25M a year?
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Besides, it appears a good chunk of that $200m is tied up in the offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48744','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_48744"><p>PS on my last response: why justify the expenditure just because you can when you can just as easily use that money to develop young, cost-controlled arms that can be horses at $300K a year instead of $25M a year?<br />
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Besides, it appears a good chunk of that $200m is tied up in the offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how many recent Yankees teams would meet that?
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How many teams in general would meet that?

For this year alone, it would be TB &amp; CHI, if I&#039;m not mistaken.

It has to be looked, at the very least, within the context of the leagues.  Maybe it&#039;s a Yankee-centric thing, maybe it&#039;s a league-wide thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48743','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_48743"><p>how many recent Yankees teams would meet that?<br />
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How many teams in general would meet that?</p>
<p>For this year alone, it would be TB &amp; CHI, if I&#8217;m not mistaken.</p>
<p>It has to be looked, at the very least, within the context of the leagues.  Maybe it&#8217;s a Yankee-centric thing, maybe it&#8217;s a league-wide thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48742</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raf, what if we lowered the bar, slightly, to:

27+ starts, 165+ innings pitched, and 12+ wins each...

how many recent Yankees teams would meet that?</description>
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<p>27+ starts, 165+ innings pitched, and 12+ wins each&#8230;</p>
<p>how many recent Yankees teams would meet that?</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48739</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, when you’re the New York Yankees and have $200 million to spend on payroll, it shouldn’t be a tall order.
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The Yankees have always spent.

Like I said, from 1996-present, the Yankees have had only one year that fit the criteria; 2003.  Even the vaunted 1998 club, didn&#039;t have the rotation that fit your criteria.

Even the Braves weren&#039;t able to do it, and their organization was known for pitching.

That it doesn&#039;t happen often, tells me that it&#039;s a tall order.

Is there any way you can run something in the CBE?  I may be missing something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_48739','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_48739"><p>Hey, when you’re the New York Yankees and have $200 million to spend on payroll, it shouldn’t be a tall order.<br />
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The Yankees have always spent.</p>
<p>Like I said, from 1996-present, the Yankees have had only one year that fit the criteria; 2003.  Even the vaunted 1998 club, didn&#8217;t have the rotation that fit your criteria.</p>
<p>Even the Braves weren&#8217;t able to do it, and their organization was known for pitching.</p>
<p>That it doesn&#8217;t happen often, tells me that it&#8217;s a tall order.</p>
<p>Is there any way you can run something in the CBE?  I may be missing something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/10/08/give-me-four-horses-please/comment-page-1/#comment-48736</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS on my last response: why justify the expenditure just because you can when you can just as easily use that money to develop young, cost-controlled arms that can be horses at $300K a year instead of $25M a year?</description>
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