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		<title>By: DJ21996</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ21996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...having a 40 HR Right handed bat is truly scary. 

The only thing more scary than that is waking up to Marisa Miller every morning. AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!</description>
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<p>The only thing more scary than that is waking up to Marisa Miller every morning. AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: redbug</title>
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		<dc:creator>redbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Yankees fan, are you horrified that Alex will be in Yankeeland for the next nine years?
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Yup.  9 more yr&#039;s of not hitting when it counts and paying the Drama Queen $30 mill a yr does not thrill me at all.</description>
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<p>Yup.  9 more yr&#8217;s of not hitting when it counts and paying the Drama Queen $30 mill a yr does not thrill me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: nwyank</title>
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		<dc:creator>nwyank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess I&#039;m in the minority here.....
Yes, I am horrified by the prospect of another 9 years of ARod. No, I don&#039;t hate him or wish him any ill will. But the contract is too much of a commitment to a player who routinely gets booed in his home stadium and doesn&#039;t exactly shine in pressure situations. The Yankees managed just fine prior to aquiring &quot;the best player in baseball&quot; and would, I suspect, manage OK if he were traded. His numbers are great, there is no dispute, but there&#039;s more to Alex than just numbers. He reminds me a bit of D Winfield who was labeled as &quot;Mr May&quot; by his very owner and only managed to shed his &quot;un-clutch&quot; reputation with a dribbling double down the left field line while playing for the Blue Jays...late in his career. The numbers will always be there for Alex. But how about playoff or WS heroics? Or even contributions? Will he ever even PLAY in a WS? 
The faults of the team cannot be laid upon the shoulders of ARod; that would be simplistic and unfair. But he doesn&#039;t seem to fit in, wherever he goes, and 9 more years in NY might not be the best thing for him or the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('nwyank');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_59406','nwyank');" /></div><span id="co_59406"><p>guess I&#8217;m in the minority here&#8230;..<br />
Yes, I am horrified by the prospect of another 9 years of ARod. No, I don&#8217;t hate him or wish him any ill will. But the contract is too much of a commitment to a player who routinely gets booed in his home stadium and doesn&#8217;t exactly shine in pressure situations. The Yankees managed just fine prior to aquiring &#8220;the best player in baseball&#8221; and would, I suspect, manage OK if he were traded. His numbers are great, there is no dispute, but there&#8217;s more to Alex than just numbers. He reminds me a bit of D Winfield who was labeled as &#8220;Mr May&#8221; by his very owner and only managed to shed his &#8220;un-clutch&#8221; reputation with a dribbling double down the left field line while playing for the Blue Jays&#8230;late in his career. The numbers will always be there for Alex. But how about playoff or WS heroics? Or even contributions? Will he ever even PLAY in a WS?<br />
The faults of the team cannot be laid upon the shoulders of ARod; that would be simplistic and unfair. But he doesn&#8217;t seem to fit in, wherever he goes, and 9 more years in NY might not be the best thing for him or the team.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewYF</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewYF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, still not horrified.

Sorry.</description>
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<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: antone</title>
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		<dc:creator>antone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>List of players with more than 100 HRS from age 38 on:

1 Barry Bonds   Age 38-42 149 HR/1.192 OPS
2 Darrell Evans Age 38-42 136 HR/ .801 OPS
3 Hank Aaron    Age 38-42 116 HR/ .837 OPS
4 Carlton Fisk  Age 38-45 109 HR/ .751 OPS
5 Dave Winfield Age 38-43 108 HR/ .790 OPS
6 Ted Williams  Age 38-41 103 HR/1.070 OPS

You can probably throw out Bonds and Ted Williams because Bonds was on roids and A-Rod isn&#039;t as good of a hitter as Ted Williams.  Throw out Fisk because he played 7 seasons after age 38 or else he wouldn&#039;t be on the list.  A-Rod is better than Darrell Evans, so throw him out too.

That leaves me with the most likely comparisons, which are Hank Aaron and Dave Winfield. Since Aaron was better we&#039;ll go with his 116 HR and .837 OPS.  Thats pretty much a 20-25 HR/60-70 RBI/.260-.270 average you can expect from ARod over his last 5 years.  Also, most of these guys better stats came at age 38 and 39 after that it falls off a cliff in most cases.</description>
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<p>1 Barry Bonds   Age 38-42 149 HR/1.192 OPS<br />
2 Darrell Evans Age 38-42 136 HR/ .801 OPS<br />
3 Hank Aaron    Age 38-42 116 HR/ .837 OPS<br />
4 Carlton Fisk  Age 38-45 109 HR/ .751 OPS<br />
5 Dave Winfield Age 38-43 108 HR/ .790 OPS<br />
6 Ted Williams  Age 38-41 103 HR/1.070 OPS</p>
<p>You can probably throw out Bonds and Ted Williams because Bonds was on roids and A-Rod isn&#8217;t as good of a hitter as Ted Williams.  Throw out Fisk because he played 7 seasons after age 38 or else he wouldn&#8217;t be on the list.  A-Rod is better than Darrell Evans, so throw him out too.</p>
<p>That leaves me with the most likely comparisons, which are Hank Aaron and Dave Winfield. Since Aaron was better we&#8217;ll go with his 116 HR and .837 OPS.  Thats pretty much a 20-25 HR/60-70 RBI/.260-.270 average you can expect from ARod over his last 5 years.  Also, most of these guys better stats came at age 38 and 39 after that it falls off a cliff in most cases.</p>
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		<title>By: antone</title>
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		<dc:creator>antone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 - No team is going to be stupid enough to take a player in his late 30’s to early 40’s and pay him about 20 million.
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So why did we sign him for 10 years then? That means the Yankees are stupid, no?</description>
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<p>So why did we sign him for 10 years then? That means the Yankees are stupid, no?</p>
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		<title>By: antone</title>
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		<dc:creator>antone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I’m horrified about? If moronic Yankee fans actually got their way and A-Rod was off the team. Think of where the Yankees would be the past 5 years, and looking to the near future, without A-Rod. I shudder to think.
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Nobody said they don&#039;t want A-Rod on the team here.  I just don&#039;t want him past age 38 or 39 at $20 million or more a season...that&#039;s most likely 3-4 seasons of a not so great A-Rod.

Also, other than Bonds and possibly Manny(which has yet to be seen and probably won&#039;t happen either) what slugger have you seen that hit 25-30 HRs a year(or has been productive in general) from age 38-42?

I&#039;ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he makes it to age 39 and still plays good, but that&#039;s still 3 seasons of not so great A-Rod after that. 7 year contract maybe 8 I would have been fine with.</description>
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<p>Nobody said they don&#8217;t want A-Rod on the team here.  I just don&#8217;t want him past age 38 or 39 at $20 million or more a season&#8230;that&#8217;s most likely 3-4 seasons of a not so great A-Rod.</p>
<p>Also, other than Bonds and possibly Manny(which has yet to be seen and probably won&#8217;t happen either) what slugger have you seen that hit 25-30 HRs a year(or has been productive in general) from age 38-42?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he makes it to age 39 and still plays good, but that&#8217;s still 3 seasons of not so great A-Rod after that. 7 year contract maybe 8 I would have been fine with.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says who Ken? I’ve always thought having one of the best players in baseball on your team was a good thing.
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Couldn&#039;t agree more.  I don&#039;t really get why the writers hate him too.</description>
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Couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I don&#8217;t really get why the writers hate him too.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with YankCrank. When he was opting out in &#039;07 and we were looking at a future with Joe Crede at third, I was not happy. Personally, I&#039;ll take A-Rod and his &quot;gaudy stats&quot; any day.</description>
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		<title>By: YankCrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankCrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having A-Rod excites me. Despite his much-publicized struggles with hitting in the clutch (which may or may not be valid), i still make sure to never miss an A-Rod at bat. His skills are extremely fun to watch. I&#039;m happy we have A-Rod...you just hope he ages well and can be somewhat productive into age 42.</description>
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