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	<title>Comments on: Funny, They Never Say This About Jeter&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, definitely a good call. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever read someone say that just because managers/coaches voted for Jeter, that means something, though I&#039;m sure it&#039;s probably been said, somewhere...</description>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously.
... going back on popups, Jeter excels
... positioning, remember the flip?
... as a cut-off man. Good positioning, good arm
... coming in on balls, he seems to be above average
However, his throws to 1B appear to be getting crappier.

While defensive stats are still somewhat inadequate, they have come a long way. Now, they video tape plays and view them with the eyes, which allows for better judgement and human interpretation. However, as Nate and Jeter show, there needs to be more categories to better cover the full variety/range of responsibilites a fielder has.

In many ways, as much as I believe in stats, they are still very primative in many ways. Look at relievers/closers. Holds? Saves? Useless! Inherited runners scored is important, but until you qualify the difference between allowing someone to score in a no-out, bases loaded situation vs. a 2-out, man on first situation, that stat is useless.

Same with RBI. These are situational plays. Shouldn&#039;t you get more credit for driving a man in from first with 2-out, then hitting a sac fly with man or 3rd and no-out?

We need stats to be more reflective of actual game situations. Otherwise, RBI is useless and we should look only at RISP/Runner on.</description>
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&#8230; going back on popups, Jeter excels<br />
&#8230; positioning, remember the flip?<br />
&#8230; as a cut-off man. Good positioning, good arm<br />
&#8230; coming in on balls, he seems to be above average<br />
However, his throws to 1B appear to be getting crappier.</p>
<p>While defensive stats are still somewhat inadequate, they have come a long way. Now, they video tape plays and view them with the eyes, which allows for better judgement and human interpretation. However, as Nate and Jeter show, there needs to be more categories to better cover the full variety/range of responsibilites a fielder has.</p>
<p>In many ways, as much as I believe in stats, they are still very primative in many ways. Look at relievers/closers. Holds? Saves? Useless! Inherited runners scored is important, but until you qualify the difference between allowing someone to score in a no-out, bases loaded situation vs. a 2-out, man on first situation, that stat is useless.</p>
<p>Same with RBI. These are situational plays. Shouldn&#8217;t you get more credit for driving a man in from first with 2-out, then hitting a sac fly with man or 3rd and no-out?</p>
<p>We need stats to be more reflective of actual game situations. Otherwise, RBI is useless and we should look only at RISP/Runner on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick-YF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick-YF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Could not the same be said about Derek Jeter?&quot;

Good call, Steve.</description>
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<p>Good call, Steve.</p>
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