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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/11/18/the-cats-away-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-61862</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he did get jumpy there.
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I wouldn&#039;t say jumpy, it was the right move.  6 outs to go, and a rested Rivera waiting in the pen, I would&#039;ve done the same thing</description>
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I wouldn&#8217;t say jumpy, it was the right move.  6 outs to go, and a rested Rivera waiting in the pen, I would&#8217;ve done the same thing</p>
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		<title>By: srivinodh</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/11/18/the-cats-away-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-61788</link>
		<dc:creator>srivinodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In particular, game 4, people forget that Torre went for the kill, calling for Rivera in the 8th inning

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he did get jumpy there.. how diff would things have been had Rivera held that save... i am sure the Sox&#039; wud have been broken up after that... what a painful year...</description>
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<p>he did get jumpy there.. how diff would things have been had Rivera held that save&#8230; i am sure the Sox&#8217; wud have been broken up after that&#8230; what a painful year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: srivinodh</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/11/18/the-cats-away-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-61786</link>
		<dc:creator>srivinodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Cashman elected to keep Igawa. And, that’s really stupid…
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Steve, if its true that Cashman did indeed reject such a deal ( i doubt it.. i would be shocked if any GM had a real serious discussion abt it.. ) then its very very poor judgment on his part... i am not the biggest fan of Cashman either.. I was just trying to point out that a lot of ppl were wrong on many of these... and you have hits and misses...  I think a few other teams posted for him too.. i still cannot believe they posted 26 Mill though..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('srivinodh');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_61786','srivinodh');" /></div><span id="co_61786"><p>But, Cashman elected to keep Igawa. And, that’s really stupid…<br />
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<p>Steve, if its true that Cashman did indeed reject such a deal ( i doubt it.. i would be shocked if any GM had a real serious discussion abt it.. ) then its very very poor judgment on his part&#8230; i am not the biggest fan of Cashman either.. I was just trying to point out that a lot of ppl were wrong on many of these&#8230; and you have hits and misses&#8230;  I think a few other teams posted for him too.. i still cannot believe they posted 26 Mill though..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/11/18/the-cats-away-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-61779</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~~~ remember around the DMat wooing period.. you writing a pretty glowing piece on Mr Kei Igawa based on his stats and how he can cost a little lesser~~~

http://waswatching.com/2006/11/29/igawa-from-my-eyes-only/

Well, it wasn&#039;t exactly &quot;glowing&quot;...

Funny, some people get on me for being negative - was I being negative about Igawa back then?  Not  really.

In any event, maybe I was just as stupid as the Yankees back then?  Sounds like it.  But, I got wise fast - and would have sent him packing the minute I heard a team like the M&#039;s or Pods was interested.  But, Cashman elected to keep Igawa.  And, that&#039;s really stupid...

Not correcting mistakes when you realize them is worse than making them in the first place...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_61779','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_61779"><p>~~~ remember around the DMat wooing period.. you writing a pretty glowing piece on Mr Kei Igawa based on his stats and how he can cost a little lesser~~~</p>
<p><a href="http://waswatching.com/2006/11/29/igawa-from-my-eyes-only/" rel="nofollow">http://waswatching.com/2006/11/29/igawa-from-my-eyes-only/</a></p>
<p>Well, it wasn&#8217;t exactly &#8220;glowing&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Funny, some people get on me for being negative &#8211; was I being negative about Igawa back then?  Not  really.</p>
<p>In any event, maybe I was just as stupid as the Yankees back then?  Sounds like it.  But, I got wise fast &#8211; and would have sent him packing the minute I heard a team like the M&#8217;s or Pods was interested.  But, Cashman elected to keep Igawa.  And, that&#8217;s really stupid&#8230;</p>
<p>Not correcting mistakes when you realize them is worse than making them in the first place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many key games would we have won if some smart manager was in there in the last 5-6 years (and the 04 ALCS in particular)
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That &quot;smart manager&quot; wasn&#039;t the reason Rivera blew saves in games 4 &amp; 5.

In particular, game 4, people forget that Torre went for the kill, calling for Rivera in the 8th inning.</description>
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&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
That &#8220;smart manager&#8221; wasn&#8217;t the reason Rivera blew saves in games 4 &amp; 5.</p>
<p>In particular, game 4, people forget that Torre went for the kill, calling for Rivera in the 8th inning.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you saying there’s been less building and more declining over the last 10 years?
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I would say more maintenance than declining, though if you were expecting the Yanks to win 114 games every year, your expectations would be a bit unrealistic

98: 114
99: 98
00: 87
01: 95
02: 103
03: 101
04: 101
05: 95
06: 97
07: 94
08: 89

If the decline angle is one you want to take, I have to admit, that&#039;s a hell of a decline.

Funny, the 08 Yanks, that finished in 3rd place (oh the horrors!) had a better record than the World Champion 00 Yanks.

OPS+/ERA+

00: 104/101
08: 101/104</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_61666','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_61666"><p>So, are you saying there’s been less building and more declining over the last 10 years?<br />
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I would say more maintenance than declining, though if you were expecting the Yanks to win 114 games every year, your expectations would be a bit unrealistic</p>
<p>98: 114<br />
99: 98<br />
00: 87<br />
01: 95<br />
02: 103<br />
03: 101<br />
04: 101<br />
05: 95<br />
06: 97<br />
07: 94<br />
08: 89</p>
<p>If the decline angle is one you want to take, I have to admit, that&#8217;s a hell of a decline.</p>
<p>Funny, the 08 Yanks, that finished in 3rd place (oh the horrors!) had a better record than the World Champion 00 Yanks.</p>
<p>OPS+/ERA+</p>
<p>00: 104/101<br />
08: 101/104</p>
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		<title>By: srivinodh</title>
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		<dc:creator>srivinodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, we were consistently picking in the lower part of the draft... the top 5 seem to be the real sure bets... i dont think prior to &#039;05 the Yanks were signing &#039;signability cases or high bonus cases&#039; down the draft order... 

We did make the 03 WS (the loss still bums me out) and 04 was a monumental collapse that no GM can be held responsible for.. How many key games would we have won if some smart manager was in there in the last 5-6 years (and the 04 ALCS in particular).. the pen is so key... and our &#039;Joe green tea&#039; was the worst at managing it...  there is one wrinkle to the 06-08 thing... revenue sharing.. more teams are keeping the high end super starts now more than ever.. Free agents are not what they used to be... and is it only Cashman&#039;s fault that he went  with the scouts recommendation of Igawa.. (btw.. i remember around the DMat wooing period.. you writing a pretty glowing piece on Mr Kei Igawa based on his stats and how he can cost a little lesser... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('srivinodh');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_61665','srivinodh');" /></div><span id="co_61665"><p>Steve, we were consistently picking in the lower part of the draft&#8230; the top 5 seem to be the real sure bets&#8230; i dont think prior to &#8216;05 the Yanks were signing &#8217;signability cases or high bonus cases&#8217; down the draft order&#8230; </p>
<p>We did make the 03 WS (the loss still bums me out) and 04 was a monumental collapse that no GM can be held responsible for.. How many key games would we have won if some smart manager was in there in the last 5-6 years (and the 04 ALCS in particular).. the pen is so key&#8230; and our &#8216;Joe green tea&#8217; was the worst at managing it&#8230;  there is one wrinkle to the 06-08 thing&#8230; revenue sharing.. more teams are keeping the high end super starts now more than ever.. Free agents are not what they used to be&#8230; and is it only Cashman&#8217;s fault that he went  with the scouts recommendation of Igawa.. (btw.. i remember around the DMat wooing period.. you writing a pretty glowing piece on Mr Kei Igawa based on his stats and how he can cost a little lesser&#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you saying there’s been less building and more declining over the last 10 years?
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lol, classic response</description>
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lol, classic response</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~~Cashman’s first year at the helm, 1998, the Yanks won 114 games. And 10 years later, 2008, the Yanks missed the playoffs for the first time since 1993~~

So, are you saying there&#039;s been less building and more declining over the last 10 years?</description>
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<p>So, are you saying there&#8217;s been less building and more declining over the last 10 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is correct.  The expectations and tasks are different.  Cashman&#039;s first year at the helm, 1998, the Yanks won 114 games.  And 10 years later, 2008, the Yanks missed the playoffs for the first time since 1993.

A 10 year playoff run is impressive, especially when you consider the fortunes of other teams around the league.  Even more so when you realize that the only other team that has done it is the Braves.  And the reason their streak isn&#039;t longer is because of the 94 strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_61657','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_61657"><p>That is correct.  The expectations and tasks are different.  Cashman&#8217;s first year at the helm, 1998, the Yanks won 114 games.  And 10 years later, 2008, the Yanks missed the playoffs for the first time since 1993.</p>
<p>A 10 year playoff run is impressive, especially when you consider the fortunes of other teams around the league.  Even more so when you realize that the only other team that has done it is the Braves.  And the reason their streak isn&#8217;t longer is because of the 94 strike.</p>
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