At least Melky didn’t cost the Yankees Kelly Shoppach, and (then big-time prospect) Andy Marte (who the Red Sox could easily have used to acquire someone else). Talk about a lopsided trade.
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No doubt. The Red Sox thought they were getting one thing and ended up with something less than what they expected. That being said, Marte sucks complete shit.

At least Melky didn’t cost the Yankees Kelly Shoppach, and (then big-time prospect) Andy Marte (who the Red Sox could easily have used to acquire someone else). Talk about a lopsided trade.

No one said Crisp was Beltran. And I meant to say that if money were no object, any GM would prefer Coco to Melky.

My point stands, Crispie is not Beltran or anything close. As an aggregate , Crispie hasn’t been an offensive juggernaut with the REd Sox so much so that Ellsbury became the golden boy with everyone up in New England. Crisp is better than Ellsbury( we have a larger sample size to see that and Ellsbury is still a sapling yet) BUT makes what 5,5 mill more!!?? The difference ‘tween Coco and Melkman is about 5 mill in salary so I beg to differ.No team? If Coco is offered for McClouth and Melky is, the Pirates are going with the lesser and cheaper coice. Not every team has Yanke/Red Sox/Met money so I don’t buy that argument though money aside I prefer Crispie though there are small market teams that don’t want to outlay for a veritable hole in the lineup.

Crisp batted .315 in the second half of the year. All of his numbers were up closer to what he accomplished in Cleveland when his OPS+ was way over 100. Obviously he lost something since then, but no team would prefer Melky to Coco, given a choice between the two.

AS for Melkman VS Coco” I am not a Cereal” Crisp, gimme a break. Coco is a great defensive centerfielder, but offensively? He was a comparative Black Hole on a team of Youk, Dustin the Wolf Boy, Lowell and Big Flapi. Melky was a good centerfielder who really lost it offensively, but some AAAA team will give him a chance as a starter. On a good team he is a fourth outfielder at best, then again Coco was an odd man out in a great team so there is not much of a difference though Crispie is a better player than Melkman……

“Remember when the debate used to be Melky vs. Coco?”

ha! yeah, turns out it doesnt matter because they
both stink on ice.

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Except that Coco will lead off and play CF in the majors next year, and Melky will likely be at SWB, if not a backup somewhere else.

Willie Mays endured tremendous levels of institutional racism in baseball. Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby were the first two guys to break the color barrier but the racism continued throughout that first wave of first and second generation of baseball integration. And I’m not just talking about in baseball but in life too.
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its amazing how much the world has changed in that brief amount of time

“Remember when the debate used to be Melky vs. Coco?”

ha! yeah, turns out it doesnt matter because they both stink on ice.

i’m trying to think of what you’re talking about here, maybe because I’m younger I missed something? Or maybe it’s just not coming to mind? Either way I’m curious
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Willie Mays endured tremendous levels of institutional racism in baseball. Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby were the first two guys to break the color barrier but the racism continued throughout that first wave of first and second generation of baseball integration. And I’m not just talking about in baseball but in life too.