• Yanks Don’t Think Halos Want Sabathia?

    Posted by on November 26th, 2008 · Comments (5)

    Via Jon Heyman -

    People inside the Yankees organization are skeptical about whether the Angels are as serious as it seems about signing star free-agent pitcher CC Sabathia. Some Yankees officials seem to believe: 1) that the Angels leaked their alleged intention to make an offer to Sabathia approaching that of the Yankees’ $140-million, six-year offer to drive down the demands of first baseman and stated top target Mark Teixeira, or 2) that if the Angels do go for Sabathia, it will be with an offer in the range of $100 million-$120 million, not $140 million.

    I, however, tend to believe the Angels are serious about Sabathia.

    A competing executive from another American League team told me he believes the Angels are “dead serious.” He predicts the Angels will match Johan Santana’s $137.5-million, six-year deal with the Mets, causing the Yankees to up their offer to $160 million over seven years. At that point, the Angels would have to decide whether to increase their own bid.

    …people inside the Yankees organization…

    I wonder if these are the same “people inside the Yankees organization” who thought they had all the time in the world to re-sign Andy Pettitte after the 2003 season; and, who thought that Jon Lieber would sign for two years at $12 million following the 2004 season; and, who thought they could win the posting for Daisuke Matsuzaka with a bid of $33 million following the 2006 season?

    Comments on Yanks Don’t Think Halos Want Sabathia?

    1. jmeisner
      November 27th, 2008 | 1:01 am

      Okay, this whole situation confuses me.

      My first question is, why would the Yankees have to pay THAT much more than the Angels in order to get CC? I’m aware that New York isn’t his first choice, but I find the idea that this offer from the Angels, which would NOT EVEN BE AS LUCRATIVE as the one we have already offered him, would force us to offer him $20 million more. If it would indeed take that much more, that says, to me anyway, that CC simply doesn’t want to play in New York, and that if he did come here his heart wouldn’t be in it and he’d wind up blowing up like a balloon and getting injured or something.

      Secondly, why do the Yankees even need to speculate whether or not the Angels will give CC an offer? I mean, once CC’s agent receives the offer, isn’t it in his client’s best interest to then TAKE THAT OFFER and show it to the Yankees so then they will offer him a better deal? It’s not as if the offer from the Angels would immediately cause CC to sign… they’d obviously use it as leverage. So I’d say a situation like this isn’t really comparable to losing Matsuzaka, because that was a closed-seal auction and this is an open one. Right?

      Am I missing something? Could somebody with more knowledge of the situation clear up these two issues?

    2. Pat F
      November 27th, 2008 | 11:18 am

      agreed steve. we can’t be as lax about this as we were about pettitte, lieber, and matsuzaka.

    3. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      November 27th, 2008 | 2:06 pm

      You answered your own question, jmeisner. Sabathia is looking for a “good” deal from a team on the coast because that is where he wants to play. For the Yankees to get him, they’d have to blow out every offer, and probably add something more. It doesn’t mean that if he ultimately decides to take the money and play in NY that he’ll be unmotivated or more likely to get even bigger. I think most would agree that he has some pride and wants to perform well.

      But for all we know, a Santana-sized offer from the Halos might land Sabathia, if he wants to be the highest paid pitcher and pitch on the west coast. I’d expect his agent to take it to the Yankees, that’s doing due diligence. But it could still wind up being the second highest, yet winning, bid.

    4. butchie22
      November 28th, 2008 | 9:45 am

      There was a piece on MLB Trade Rumors that CC would want to play for the Yanks! This West Coast talk is to drive up the price. The Yanks should be patient AND see what the village idiots in Hollowood and the Orange County Angels of Anaheim/Pasadena California will do. The Angels will try to land Teixeira and if they do, CC is off the table.

      AS for the morons in Hollywood, they should try to sign one more bust like Jones, Pierre, Schmidt that would make me very happy. I want to see Colletti and McCourt f&$k up another signing with big money that McCourt doesn’t have. Mc Court should sign CC and Manny and then go to the federal government for bailout money! As I’ve said many times, Colletti makes Cash Man look like a brain surgeon!

      And the Giants, they just gave Renteria 9 mill a year, there was BS talk ’bout Manny and CC? That team can’t even afford to keep the players they have now. Sabean stupidly committed to Zito and that gave him zero flexibility to sign a Manny or a CC. Another guy that makes Cash Man look good, BUT not by much……..

    5. butchie22
      November 28th, 2008 | 9:54 am

      AS for the time factor regarding the different players you mentioned. Pettitte was a complete screwup, now you have Yankee shills claiming that he was having an affair all based on a bling item. They was no name mentioned unlike Arod and Madonna but Pettitte left the Yanks because of an affair….not! That was complete horseshit. The Yankees got lazy ,dissed him and let him go.

      LIber was another stupid foul up.The Yanks had him for two years(one rehab year) and the guy could pitch in New York. Well what did Cash Man do? Twaddle as usual. Lieber wasn’t that effective in his last year in Philly, but the Yankee could have offered more money at two years.

      Steve as for Dice-K, the Mets actually outbid the Mets at 38 mill. People were shocked that Boston gave him 51 mill at the time. The bid was secret so there was no reference point for what the highest bid would be. The rough thing is that NYYs overbid for Igawa because of the Dice-K failure and that was a shame….26 mill down the drain.

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