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	<title>Comments on: Madden:  Cashman Can&#8217;t Afford Pitching Failures</title>
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		<title>By: deadrody</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/12/13/madden-cashman-cant-afford-pitching-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-72313</link>
		<dc:creator>deadrody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC Sabathia puts the Yankees in &quot;desperate overpay&quot; mode.  Really.  I&#039;m pretty sure I saw analysis that adjusting for cost of living, the contract Milwaukee offered Sabathia was only marginally less than what the Yankees were offering.

But because this is the official &quot;Cashman Sux&quot; blog, giving Sabathia the same money as Santana is desperately overpaying.  

Gotcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('deadrody');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_72313','deadrody');" /></div><span id="co_72313"><p>CC Sabathia puts the Yankees in &#8220;desperate overpay&#8221; mode.  Really.  I&#8217;m pretty sure I saw analysis that adjusting for cost of living, the contract Milwaukee offered Sabathia was only marginally less than what the Yankees were offering.</p>
<p>But because this is the official &#8220;Cashman Sux&#8221; blog, giving Sabathia the same money as Santana is desperately overpaying.  </p>
<p>Gotcha.</p>
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		<title>By: deadrody</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/12/13/madden-cashman-cant-afford-pitching-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-72311</link>
		<dc:creator>deadrody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, there&#039;s some good company to keep!

Supporting your &quot;Cashman sux as GM&quot; rant with evidence from Maddog Russo.  Yikes!</description>
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<p>Supporting your &#8220;Cashman sux as GM&#8221; rant with evidence from Maddog Russo.  Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/12/13/madden-cashman-cant-afford-pitching-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-71191</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they take a ring, Cashman gets his share of the credit, regardless of what happens after. 
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Since he&#039;s not getting credit for the rings he has now, I figure they will find some other way to deny credit.

Some of the logic I&#039;ve seen slamming the man&#039;s moves, would make quite a few contortionists proud, to say nothing about revisionist history...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_71191','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_71191"><p>If they take a ring, Cashman gets his share of the credit, regardless of what happens after.<br />
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Since he&#8217;s not getting credit for the rings he has now, I figure they will find some other way to deny credit.</p>
<p>Some of the logic I&#8217;ve seen slamming the man&#8217;s moves, would make quite a few contortionists proud, to say nothing about revisionist history&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan3457</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2008/12/13/madden-cashman-cant-afford-pitching-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-71118</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan3457</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s safe to conclude that if the Yanks win it all, people will sing Cashman&#039;s praises.

I mean, people have been saying: biggest payroll in baseball, no credit for division titles, no credit for playoff series wins, no credit for Wild Card. Credit for rings. If they take a ring, Cashman gets his share of the credit, regardless of what happens after. Big if.

And then, if the pitchers go belly-up, it&#039;ll be the price of signing veteran power pitchers with a lot of mileage on their arms and other body parts.</description>
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<p>I mean, people have been saying: biggest payroll in baseball, no credit for division titles, no credit for playoff series wins, no credit for Wild Card. Credit for rings. If they take a ring, Cashman gets his share of the credit, regardless of what happens after. Big if.</p>
<p>And then, if the pitchers go belly-up, it&#8217;ll be the price of signing veteran power pitchers with a lot of mileage on their arms and other body parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sinks or swims with the outcome...then no more excuses.&quot;

Promise? I thought he was sinking or swiming with the youth movement or the long, long list of busto pitchers that have the Yanks in desperate over-pay mode.

Question, if Yanks get ring next year but CC and A.J. go belly-up for years after, were these moves credit-worthy?</description>
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<p>Promise? I thought he was sinking or swiming with the youth movement or the long, long list of busto pitchers that have the Yanks in desperate over-pay mode.</p>
<p>Question, if Yanks get ring next year but CC and A.J. go belly-up for years after, were these moves credit-worthy?</p>
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		<title>By: thenewguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenewguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rivera failed the Yanks in 2001 &amp; 2004. Is Cashman a moron for keeping him? Wang failed the Yanks in 2007, should Cashman be fired for not trading him?
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Absolutely. ;-) 

He should just have Joba close for Mariano right now.</description>
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&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Absolutely. <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>He should just have Joba close for Mariano right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact of the matter is that the Yanks have failed in the playoffs for any number of reasons. To assign credit/blame to Cashman misses the point.

Rivera failed the Yanks in 2001 &amp; 2004.  Is Cashman a moron for keeping him?  Wang failed the Yanks in 2007, should Cashman be fired for not trading him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_70782','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_70782"><p>The fact of the matter is that the Yanks have failed in the playoffs for any number of reasons. To assign credit/blame to Cashman misses the point.</p>
<p>Rivera failed the Yanks in 2001 &amp; 2004.  Is Cashman a moron for keeping him?  Wang failed the Yanks in 2007, should Cashman be fired for not trading him?</p>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Mark, these signings are Cashman all the way, and he sinks or swims with the outcome.  We all know that -- the Cashman lovers, the Cashman haters, and the agnostics (like me).  If the Yankees win a World series in the next two or three years, I am prepared ot say Cashman got it right this time and that he deserves credit for using his abundant resources wisely.  After all, he ahd other choices for how to allocate those resources (e.g., Tex, Dunn, Lowe, Sheets, etc.).  If the Yankees falter, then no more excuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Scout');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_70775','Scout');" /></div><span id="co_70775"><p>No, Mark, these signings are Cashman all the way, and he sinks or swims with the outcome.  We all know that &#8212; the Cashman lovers, the Cashman haters, and the agnostics (like me).  If the Yankees win a World series in the next two or three years, I am prepared ot say Cashman got it right this time and that he deserves credit for using his abundant resources wisely.  After all, he ahd other choices for how to allocate those resources (e.g., Tex, Dunn, Lowe, Sheets, etc.).  If the Yankees falter, then no more excuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the new guys get a ring, it will be part of some shrewd plan. If they flop, the owners prevented poor Brian from doing all the smart stuff he really wanted to do. We&#039;ve been here many times.</description>
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		<title>By: thenewguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>thenewguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Formidable enough to put Chamberlain back in the bullpen, where he belongs as closer-in-waiting for Mariano Rivera. 
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Just one example of Bill Madden being an idiot. You can&#039;t really take anything he says seriously. 


you have to admit that Cashman has spent more money on pitching than any other G.M. in the history of the game. 
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As GM of baseballs richest team for a long tenure, of course Cashman has spent the most money in the history of baseball. (Doesn&#039;t Cy Young have the most losses ever too? )</description>
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&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Just one example of Bill Madden being an idiot. You can&#8217;t really take anything he says seriously. </p>
<p>you have to admit that Cashman has spent more money on pitching than any other G.M. in the history of the game.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>As GM of baseballs richest team for a long tenure, of course Cashman has spent the most money in the history of baseball. (Doesn&#8217;t Cy Young have the most losses ever too? )</p>
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