I agree, I don’t think it’ll happen either. I think Boston will shell out the dough for him that’ll be that. As a result, I think the Yanks will be forced into a panic-signing with Manny and will give him too many years. Such has been the way of Brian Cashman so I don’t see it stopping now. The entire winter has been an overreaction and so will the Manny signing…

I don’t think we’ll ever see eye to eye on the idea of Tex. However, if I turn on the tv at some point during the week and see the Yanks signed him I wouldn’t be disappointed and i’d also be very surprised. I imagine we’ll revist this conversation when we find out where he lands.

Giambi had some productive years, yes, but that long contract did hurt us at times. You can’t pretend it didn’t.
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Where Giambi’s contract hurt was his inability to play 1B from the day he got here. However, when he was putting up monster offensive seasons, no one seemed to mind.

In Teixeira, you wouldn’t be getting a player who masquerades as a 1st baseman, you’d actually be getting a 1st baseman. Furthermore, just as with Giambi, if he’s raking, that’s all you really need him to do.

Fairly low on a list of things that still went wrong. Just because injuries were a bigger issue doesn’t mean Giambi as a primary 1b wasn’t a problem.
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Point isn’t that it wasn’t a problem, point was that there were bigger problems that needed rectifying.

How about after 2004 when his health kept him out of the playoffs when we couldn’t buy a hit against Boston and had to use Tony Clark?
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Rivera also blew saves in games 4 & 5. Also of an impact was Olerud getting hurt, as well as two calls that were overturned (ARod’s slap & Bellhorn’s HR)
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How about in 2005 when the Yanks concluded they could only afford one of Randy Johnson and Carlos Beltran because somebody who missed the end of 2004 was making $20 million and clogging our payroll flexability? Biggest problem, no, but a problem indeed…
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Boras was willing to have Beltran sign at a discount, and the Yanks still weren’t interested. Mind you they didn’t have to trade for Johnson, and Giambi was only making $13M, not even the highest paid player on the team (and on top of that, they were trying to get rid of him). And it didn’t prevent them from getting Johnny Damon a couple of years later. Yanks didn’t sign Beltran because they didn’t want him, not because they couldn’t afford him.

“A smarter GM would have asked: what areas are my team weak in? Answer: Hitting and defense. That dolt Cash Man goes after pitching instead…..go figure.”

Butchie, before Tuesday of the Winter Meetings, if Cashman looked at his depth chart he would have seen 9 starting players, a bullpen, and only 2 starting pitchers in Wang and Joba out of 5 needed. You’re telling me you’re going to criticize Cashman for filling out his rotation first?

“Of the things that went wrong with the Yanks last season, Giambi is fairly low on the list. Having 4 outmakers in the lineup (Jeter, Cano, Melky, Molina), and other injuries (ARod, Matsui, Posada, Wang) hurt more than Giambi’s work @ 1b.”

Fairly low on a list of things that still went wrong. Just because injuries were a bigger issue doesn’t mean Giambi as a primary 1b wasn’t a problem. Giambi had a number of issues besides last year’s defense. How about after 2004 when his health kept him out of the playoffs when we couldn’t buy a hit against Boston and had to use Tony Clark? Was that the biggest issue? No, but it hurt us. How about in 2005 when the Yanks concluded they could only afford one of Randy Johnson and Carlos Beltran because somebody who missed the end of 2004 was making $20 million and clogging our payroll flexability? Biggest problem, no, but a problem indeed…how’d you like to have Beltran in center right now instead of Melky or Gardner?

Giambi had some productive years, yes, but that long contract did hurt us at times. You can’t pretend it didn’t.

You don’t pass up Teixeira out of the need to keep the 1B spot open. That just doesn’t make sense. Quote by MJ

MJ I made this point yesterday and I most heartily agree with you. Damon and Matsui are out after next year, Posada can DH, Jeter can move to center and Arod can DH when Posada leaves in 3 years. Teixeira could play 1st base for the Yanks for years and years as far as I’m concerned. I think the Angels might be smart enough(or stupid enough) to go 9 or 10 years, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Someone mentions Cash Man’s moves on pitching. I like 3 years of CC, but like AJerk’s contract with Toronto it is a mixed blessing. If he ends up like Ben Sheets last year CC can stay and keep the money. CC has not been that good in the postseason either. Now with Burnit(sic), he is maddeningly inconsistent AND he has never pitched in the playoffs. And to add insult to injury, is bad with the press. So far, so bad. The real problem the Yanks had last year was hitting not pitching. They were mediocre offensively last year. I have a sinking feeling that sans Abreu, Giambi and the lone presence of Manny(but not Teix) ,this looks almost like a repeat of last year offensively. All in all, Teixeira should have been priority 1b after CC, BUT the Yankee front office evidently cannot scout it’s own team’s needs. A smarter GM would have asked: what areas are my team weak in? Answer: Hitting and defense. That dolt Cash Man goes after pitching instead…..go figure.

Of course it did. Giambi should have been a DH with how awful his defense was, but our bad and expensive deals clogged the roster and forced him to play 1b far too often.
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Of the things that went wrong with the Yanks last season, Giambi is fairly low on the list. Having 4 outmakers in the lineup (Jeter, Cano, Melky, Molina), and other injuries (ARod, Matsui, Posada, Wang) hurt more than Giambi’s work @ 1b.

Now you’re arguing something else.

I agree completely that a team has to be ruthlessly objective in its self-analysis. Boston made the right choices in letting Pedro and Damon go, especially because they had talent at those positions that could either step up or they could afford stop-gap measures.

As much as we all believe that the Yanks will do the stupidly sentimental thing and keep Jeter, we don’t actually know that will happen. You’re arguing that Boston can bring Teixeira in for a long-term deal because they’ll have that flexibility down the road.

It’s certainly possible that the Yankees will have that same flexibility. In theory, the 2011 Yankees could be without Jeter, Damon, Matsui and Nady, and Posada will be entering his final season.