• Source: Pettitte’s Return Inevitable

    Posted by on December 19th, 2008 · Comments (10)

    Via Ken Rosenthal -

    The return of free-agent left-hander Andy Pettitte to the Yankees is “virtually inevitable,” according to a source with knowledge of the pitcher’s intentions. While a deal is not imminent, it is believed that the two sides will eventually come to an agreement on a one-year deal.

    The signing of Pettitte would likely end the Yankees’ pursuit of other free-agent pitchers, namely right-handers Derek Lowe and Ben Sheets.

    Sabathia, Wang, Burnett, Pettitte and Chamberlain, in that order, would be a sweet rotation.

    Left, right, right, left, right…Fastball/Slider, Power Sinker, Fastball/Curve, Cutter, Fastball/Slider. It’s a nice mix and match.

    Comments on Source: Pettitte’s Return Inevitable

    1. YankCrank
      December 19th, 2008 | 11:10 pm

      And if we’re fortunate enough to make the playoffs, who gets dropped? Actually, that decision may already have been made if Joba is capped at his 150 innings.

    2. jmeisner
      December 20th, 2008 | 2:31 am

      It’s more than just “sweet”, it’s pretty unarguably the best rotation in baseball. Three legitimate aces between alphabet soup and Wang, and one that has the potential to become an ace in Joba. I have the feeling Pettitte will step it up this year, as well.

      The obvious question marks for ’09 are the 7th and 8th innings and the lineup.

    3. December 20th, 2008 | 4:00 am

      Burnett is an ace? According to what?

    4. December 20th, 2008 | 8:10 am

      ~~~It’s more than just “sweet”, it’s pretty unarguably the best rotation in baseball. ~~~

      I can’t go there. Too many question marks. Wang’s coming off an injury and has some other injuries in his past. Burnett is injury prone. Joba? Who knows after last year if his shoulder will hold up. Pettitte was hurt last year. CC has thrown a lot of pitches and innings.

      It could be the best rotation in baseball or the biggest flop at the same time. We just don’t know.

    5. butchie22
      December 20th, 2008 | 8:37 am

      Burnett is an ace? According to what? Quote

      As much as I hate Burnit, on a personal and professional level, paying close attention to him in Toronto he has 1a stuff(ace-like). He has the talent to be like a Halladay, but not the head or the heart to be like him. The problems are myriad. He is not consistent in terms of his pitching performances and staying healthy. That is why he should be designated a 2a at most, because of his spotty performance and his injury history. In Toronto, Halladay was the ace and Burnit was number two so the pattern repeats itself in New York.

      Steve, I agree with you on Wang, he is at most a 2c but his injury history is starting to worry me a bit, mate. I think they need to add another pitcher to the mix like a Lowe or Garland( not the greatest pitcher in the world but someone who is consistent) and one big bat like Teixeira( wishful thinking) and Manram(great production, lousy clubhouse presence/loose cannon). Supposedly the Yankees won’t pick up Sheets because they picked Burnit( so they gave 80 mil plus for 5 years knowing that he was fragile) who is injury prone, wow that signing is looking stupider all the time……. They need some kind of sixth pitcher so that they don’t have to go to the Rasners(in Japan), Karstens(with the Pirates), Ponsons(stuck in Aruba eating and drinking too much) and Pavanos (please no more American Idle) of the world again.

    6. YankCrank
      December 20th, 2008 | 10:59 am

      “They need some kind of sixth pitcher so that they don’t have to go to the Rasners(in Japan), Karstens(with the Pirates), Ponsons(stuck in Aruba eating and drinking too much) and Pavanos (please no more American Idle) of the world again.”

      I think all of us, including the Yankees, know that AJ isn’t going to make every start in his Yankee career. The 6th man you speak of is going to be the likes of Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves and maybe Horne. I understand your want for consistency but guys like Garland and Lowe will have a large price tag and fill up roster spots that will limit our roster flexibility. That’s unneeded when you have cost-controlled talent in AAA like we do. That has to be part of why the Yanks were ok with the Burnett gamble…worst case he has an injury and our young guns step up, best case he is an ace like he has shown in times in the past.

    7. Raf
      December 20th, 2008 | 11:20 am

      It could be the best rotation in baseball or the biggest flop at the same time. We just don’t know.
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      Yep. Looks good on paper, but we’ll see next season.

      The 2004 rotation looked pretty good too; then Vaz got hurt, Mussina got hurt, Brown took on a wall, Contreras couldn’t pitch worth a darn… Lieber and Duque did about as well as expected.

    8. Scout
      December 20th, 2008 | 1:23 pm

      At this point in the off-season, rotations only exist on paper and can only be compared on that basis. Preface all comments with, “If healthy…” and you can proceed with the conversation.

      The other question is the likelihood that pitchers will be healthy. Wang seems to have recovered from a potentially career-threatening foot injury, so some caution is in order. Last year C.C. and A.J. were healthy, and there is no reason to anticipate a problem in 2009. Joba had a mild shoulder injury and will be on an innings count. Pettitte showed wear-and-tear but, if he passes a physical, will presumbaly be in OK shape for the back of the order. So while there are questions here, they do not appear to justify red-flags everywhere.

      So who else in baseball has a better rotation “on paper”, with the same cautions about health?

    9. butchie22
      December 20th, 2008 | 1:28 pm

      I think all of us, including the Yankees, know that AJ isn’t going to make every start in his Yankee career. The 6th man you speak of is going to be the likes of Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves and maybe Horne. I understand your want for consistency but guys like Garland and Lowe will have a large price tag and fill up roster spots that will limit our roster flexibility. Quote

      Pragmatically speaking, I don’t want the Yankees to repeat the failure of the Hughes/Kennedy experiment of last year with even their 5th spot(or potentially 4th if two pitchers get hurt) in 2009. I like what I saw from Aceves and Coke last year BUT every game will count this year with Tampa and Boston being so good and Toronto not being a pushover. The Yanks cannot afford to go with a youth movement to replace 2 or 3 three starters, that they would end up in third place since the GM seems to be going with pitching and defense( their defense is still suspect) and a mediocre offense.

      One other thing Burnit is not an ace BUT has acelike stuff. Great stuff an ace does not make. Because of his injury history, his meddling ERA when the Yankees and Red Sox are subtracted, and his inconsistency he is not a Number 1. Now Halladay is a 1a for sure but his old buddy is not: both performance wise and mentally. The Yankees stupidly fell in love with him because of what I call the Chuck Finley factor. They have a tendency to want to pick up people who have beat them like Johnson, Pavano, Schill (they wanted him and didn’t get him) and even talked about picking up Finley at one point.

    10. Raf
      December 20th, 2008 | 2:57 pm

      Pragmatically speaking, I don’t want the Yankees to repeat the failure of the Hughes/Kennedy experiment of last year with even their 5th spot(or potentially 4th if two pitchers get hurt) in 2009.
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      Based on their minor league performances, they’ll be fine.

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