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		<title>By: Pettitte Near Deal With Yanks? : WasWatching.com</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/sherman-yanks-to-lower-offer-to-pettitte/comment-page-1/#comment-100154</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] said in the past that having Andy Pettitte return to the Yankees, for just the 2009 season, is vital to New York’s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JeremyM</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/sherman-yanks-to-lower-offer-to-pettitte/comment-page-1/#comment-86237</link>
		<dc:creator>JeremyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like they nickeled-and-dimed Jeter, Posada, and Mariano.... d&#039;oh.

I&#039;m a Pettitte fan, don&#039;t get me wrong- but $10 million is a fair offer, actually a very good offer.  Period.  And that&#039;s why I&#039;m upset with him, because I do want him back and he&#039;s being greedy.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m a Pettitte fan, don&#8217;t get me wrong- but $10 million is a fair offer, actually a very good offer.  Period.  And that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m upset with him, because I do want him back and he&#8217;s being greedy.</p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
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		<dc:creator>butchie22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n the last year or so, I’ve noticed something. If I write something less than flattering about Phil Hughes - who, in the big picture, has done nothing for the Yankees yet at the big league level - I get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans. At the same time, if I write something in praise of Andy Pettitte - who is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the Yankees franchise - I also get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans. Quote from steve

Honestly, Pettitte has got it done for the most part and he wants to be paid accordingly. It&#039;s funny how the Yanks nickel and dime their homegrown talent and bid against themselves when it come to a player they covet.They blew everyone out of the water with the CC signing, only one other team was bidding on Burnit, and they made the highest bid on Teix by far( though i have heard scuttlebutt, that the Nats offered more, I&#039;ll believe when I see confirmation on it) BUT Pettitte who is a known quantity and beloved Yankee can be nickeled and dimed. That 6 mill they are saving is going where? Tosign Manny for 25 mill? Give AP at least 13 mill then see what he says. He didn&#039;t have the greatest season BUT he can pitch here. I saw that overweight, iffy in the postseason CC get megabucks and that jerk from Toronto who has never had pressure or thrown one big game pitch get megabucks (who knows how they&#039;ll do in the cauldron of NYC), so giving Andy an extra 3 or 6 mill won&#039;t kill them.A very pennywise poundfoolish decision by Cash Man and the Yankees.

Hughes and Pettitte? Please that is disrepectiveful. Until Hughes is able to string together a consistent run in triple AAA let alone the majors then people might think about talking about him at all.Pettitte has done tons for the NYYS and Hughes relatively nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85861','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_85861"><p>n the last year or so, I’ve noticed something. If I write something less than flattering about Phil Hughes &#8211; who, in the big picture, has done nothing for the Yankees yet at the big league level &#8211; I get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans. At the same time, if I write something in praise of Andy Pettitte &#8211; who is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the Yankees franchise &#8211; I also get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans. Quote from steve</p>
<p>Honestly, Pettitte has got it done for the most part and he wants to be paid accordingly. It&#8217;s funny how the Yanks nickel and dime their homegrown talent and bid against themselves when it come to a player they covet.They blew everyone out of the water with the CC signing, only one other team was bidding on Burnit, and they made the highest bid on Teix by far( though i have heard scuttlebutt, that the Nats offered more, I&#8217;ll believe when I see confirmation on it) BUT Pettitte who is a known quantity and beloved Yankee can be nickeled and dimed. That 6 mill they are saving is going where? Tosign Manny for 25 mill? Give AP at least 13 mill then see what he says. He didn&#8217;t have the greatest season BUT he can pitch here. I saw that overweight, iffy in the postseason CC get megabucks and that jerk from Toronto who has never had pressure or thrown one big game pitch get megabucks (who knows how they&#8217;ll do in the cauldron of NYC), so giving Andy an extra 3 or 6 mill won&#8217;t kill them.A very pennywise poundfoolish decision by Cash Man and the Yankees.</p>
<p>Hughes and Pettitte? Please that is disrepectiveful. Until Hughes is able to string together a consistent run in triple AAA let alone the majors then people might think about talking about him at all.Pettitte has done tons for the NYYS and Hughes relatively nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: bfriley76</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfriley76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last year or so, I’ve noticed something. If I write something less than flattering about Phil Hughes - who, in the big picture, has done nothing for the Yankees yet at the big league level - I get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans. At the same time, if I write something in praise of Andy Pettitte - who is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the Yankees franchise - I also get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans.
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And what&#039;s happened in the last year or so? Pettitte admitted to using PEDs.

No matter how much a guy has done for a team (and Pettitte has done a ton) the PED thing is always going to make some fans hate that player. I don&#039;t know if I agree, but I can understand why some fans would feel that way.</description>
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And what&#8217;s happened in the last year or so? Pettitte admitted to using PEDs.</p>
<p>No matter how much a guy has done for a team (and Pettitte has done a ton) the PED thing is always going to make some fans hate that player. I don&#8217;t know if I agree, but I can understand why some fans would feel that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, are they the same fans?

Other than the fact that Hughes and Pettitte both pitched for the Yankees, they have nothing in common.</description>
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<p>Other than the fact that Hughes and Pettitte both pitched for the Yankees, they have nothing in common.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last year or so, I&#039;ve noticed something.  If I write something less than flattering about Phil Hughes - who, in the big picture, has done nothing for the Yankees yet at the big league level - I get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans.  At the same time, if I write something in praise of Andy Pettitte - who is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the Yankees franchise - I also get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans.

I think I need a bigger cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85841','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_85841"><p>In the last year or so, I&#8217;ve noticed something.  If I write something less than flattering about Phil Hughes &#8211; who, in the big picture, has done nothing for the Yankees yet at the big league level &#8211; I get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans.  At the same time, if I write something in praise of Andy Pettitte &#8211; who is one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the Yankees franchise &#8211; I also get nailed to a cross by many Yankees fans.</p>
<p>I think I need a bigger cross.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, the Indians are willing to pay Carl Pavano close to $7 mill and the Yankees don’t want to pay more than $10 to Andy Pettitte. Go figure.&quot;

how bout it from the other perspective then, if you buy into this premise.

if Pettitte was such an upgrade from what Pavano gives a team, why wouldnt the Indians throw in a couple more million, and offer Pettitte a reasonable fair market value option to choose over the Yankees?</description>
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<p>how bout it from the other perspective then, if you buy into this premise.</p>
<p>if Pettitte was such an upgrade from what Pavano gives a team, why wouldnt the Indians throw in a couple more million, and offer Pettitte a reasonable fair market value option to choose over the Yankees?</p>
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		<title>By: JeremyM</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/sherman-yanks-to-lower-offer-to-pettitte/comment-page-1/#comment-85747</link>
		<dc:creator>JeremyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$10 million is more than fair.  I would like to have him back, but Pettitte is being a diva here, and all of his stuff about how he isn&#039;t in it for the money and whatnot is a load.  And after the way the Yanks treated him last offseason, how can he claim to be disrespected?</description>
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		<title>By: #15</title>
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		<dc:creator>#15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy &amp; Co. overplayed their hand just like Manny did with LA. $10 million was/is more than a fair offer based on his recent actual and expected &#039;09 pitching performance, plus the very real risk of a physial breakdown. I hope Andy takes it or retires. He&#039;ll drop a notch in my book if he signs a similar or lower value contract somewhere else. If someone offers him 13+ they are 1) nuts and 2) entitled to his services. I sincerely doubt that an offer like that is or will be out there.</description>
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		<title>By: FourKings</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourKings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comments in general. Pettitte doesn&#039;t deserve the respect he once commanded.  I am of the opinion that Pettitte gets a lot of leniency simply because of his classy looks.  Other guys in the Mitchell report are jacked; overweight; huge heads etc... Pettitte still strolls around looking normal and healthy; and I think this plays into peoples&#039; perception of what the guy really is: someone who cheated on more than one occasion; pulled a diva-esque act last year with free agency; and appears to be doing it again.</description>
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