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	<title>Comments on: WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 1/6/09</title>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/waswatchingcom-water-cooler-talk-1609/comment-page-1/#comment-85746</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.&quot;

unless they think Pettitte is already overpaid at $10 million, which apparently they do.

and i&#039;m still under the impression that Mitre&#039;s suspension can be served technically while he&#039;s rehabbing, so he&#039;d still be in line to pitch midseason 2009 if he&#039;s back and healthy.

so they took a $1 million gamble on a veteran pitcher coming back on an injury. thats a big deal? thats never been done before by any other &#039;reputable&#039; GM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('TurnTwo');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85746','TurnTwo');" /></div><span id="co_85746"><p>&#8220;It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.&#8221;</p>
<p>unless they think Pettitte is already overpaid at $10 million, which apparently they do.</p>
<p>and i&#8217;m still under the impression that Mitre&#8217;s suspension can be served technically while he&#8217;s rehabbing, so he&#8217;d still be in line to pitch midseason 2009 if he&#8217;s back and healthy.</p>
<p>so they took a $1 million gamble on a veteran pitcher coming back on an injury. thats a big deal? thats never been done before by any other &#8216;reputable&#8217; GM?</p>
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		<title>By: thenewguy</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/waswatchingcom-water-cooler-talk-1609/comment-page-1/#comment-85282</link>
		<dc:creator>thenewguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They kept saying on the Fan that not only was it a legal substance that Mitre and Romero took, but that it was also specifically approved by MLB. Only later did MLB realize that it contained a banned substance. They still decided to give them 50 game bans. 

Of course, most of that I heard from Mike Francesca.</description>
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<p>Of course, most of that I heard from Mike Francesca.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, it&#039;s no big deal.</description>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/waswatchingcom-water-cooler-talk-1609/comment-page-1/#comment-85047</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.
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One has nothing to do with the other.

Mitre&#039;s contract is a split contract; he gets a different salary if he stays in the majors.

IIRC, the Yankees (ballclubs in general) don&#039;t handle steroid/PED testing.

Of course, we haven&#039;t found out why, if Mitre took a legal supplement, that an illegal substance was found in it.  Doesn&#039;t make any sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Raf');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85047','Raf');" /></div><span id="co_85047"><p>It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.<br />
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One has nothing to do with the other.</p>
<p>Mitre&#8217;s contract is a split contract; he gets a different salary if he stays in the majors.</p>
<p>IIRC, the Yankees (ballclubs in general) don&#8217;t handle steroid/PED testing.</p>
<p>Of course, we haven&#8217;t found out why, if Mitre took a legal supplement, that an illegal substance was found in it.  Doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~~i was under the impression that it was a pretty good low risk-decent reward, under the radar signing that most probably wont hurt or help the yankees either way this season.~~

Mitre’s contract is for $1.25 million and there is a team option for 2010. Due to the severe surgery on his right elbow, Mitre may not be ready to pitch until midseason.  So, now, add 8 weeks on to that because of the suspension.  That means he be available to pitch probably some time around September 2009. 

Is he really going to help the team, then, &quot;getting real&quot;?  No.

It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.

Yeah, there&#039;s the option for 2010.  But, considering that the guy wasn&#039;t that good to begin with, what makes you think he&#039;ll have any value in 2010 after being out for most of 2009, now, thanks to the suspension?

It was a waste of a signing.  The Yankees should have made him pee in a cup before inking him.  Maybe that would have saved them a mill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85040','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_85040"><p>~~i was under the impression that it was a pretty good low risk-decent reward, under the radar signing that most probably wont hurt or help the yankees either way this season.~~</p>
<p>Mitre’s contract is for $1.25 million and there is a team option for 2010. Due to the severe surgery on his right elbow, Mitre may not be ready to pitch until midseason.  So, now, add 8 weeks on to that because of the suspension.  That means he be available to pitch probably some time around September 2009. </p>
<p>Is he really going to help the team, then, &#8220;getting real&#8221;?  No.</p>
<p>It probably made more sense using that $1.25 million and adding it to the low-ball $10 million dollar offer made to Pettitte.</p>
<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s the option for 2010.  But, considering that the guy wasn&#8217;t that good to begin with, what makes you think he&#8217;ll have any value in 2010 after being out for most of 2009, now, thanks to the suspension?</p>
<p>It was a waste of a signing.  The Yankees should have made him pee in a cup before inking him.  Maybe that would have saved them a mill?</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/waswatchingcom-water-cooler-talk-1609/comment-page-1/#comment-85030</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anybody watching the press conference? I’m stuck at work, how’s he look? Which number did he take?&quot;

he sounded giddy to be a yankee, but then again anyone would sound giddy with $180ish million in their back pocket guaranteed.

but the whole part about his idolizing Don Mattingly as &quot;the guy&quot; even as a kid who went to Orioles games was genuine and cool to hear from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('TurnTwo');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85030','TurnTwo');" /></div><span id="co_85030"><p>&#8220;Anybody watching the press conference? I’m stuck at work, how’s he look? Which number did he take?&#8221;</p>
<p>he sounded giddy to be a yankee, but then again anyone would sound giddy with $180ish million in their back pocket guaranteed.</p>
<p>but the whole part about his idolizing Don Mattingly as &#8220;the guy&#8221; even as a kid who went to Orioles games was genuine and cool to hear from him.</p>
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		<title>By: TurnTwo</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/01/06/waswatchingcom-water-cooler-talk-1609/comment-page-1/#comment-85026</link>
		<dc:creator>TurnTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, was i mistaken? was sergio mitre signed on the basis that the yankees need his healthy contributions to win in 2009?

because i was under the impression that it was a pretty good low risk-decent reward, under the radar signing that most probably wont hurt or help the yankees either way this season.

lets get real here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('TurnTwo');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_85026','TurnTwo');" /></div><span id="co_85026"><p>sorry, was i mistaken? was sergio mitre signed on the basis that the yankees need his healthy contributions to win in 2009?</p>
<p>because i was under the impression that it was a pretty good low risk-decent reward, under the radar signing that most probably wont hurt or help the yankees either way this season.</p>
<p>lets get real here.</p>
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		<title>By: YankCrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankCrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah 25, I guess everyone who bought a real Giambi jersey is relieved</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Pete Abe, it&#039;s 25</description>
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		<title>By: YankCrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankCrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody watching the press conference? I&#039;m stuck at work, how&#039;s he look? Which number did he take?</description>
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