Cashman stealing ARod was a decade changing deal. Of course, Lucky Larry getting cheap over a few mil is what killed the deal. And now we have stolen Tex. Again, us without Tex vs. the Sox with Tex is a huge difference.

I agree the Sox have a good organization and will be battling us for a while. But Stealth Cashman’s gets of ARod and Tex have been huge. Quote from Old Yanks Fan

Mate, no offense are you talking about the Yankees that play in either the Twilight Zone OR the Night Gallery? The Red Sox have won 2 world series since the Yankees got Arod and what in heaven’s name have the Yankees won? It was almost divine providence that the Red Sox didn’t get arod because they have won without him and have traveled farther than the Yankees in the playoffs since NY has gotten Arod(exclusing of course 2006 and 2008 where one of the teams ,the Pox and Tankees, didn’t make it at).

As much as I depise Lucchino, I dislike Cash Man more. Cash Man has presided over the Reserve the Curse years , where the Red Sox are the team to beat and the Yanks can’t even make it out of the first round , let alone in the playoffs. I disagree with Lucchino, in that the Red Sox have already OUTSMARTED the Yankees! They are spending much less money and are fielding a team that have won two World Series in the last 5 years while they are dopey Yankee fans still saying that the Yanks can still beat the Red Sox when it counts. These are the same people that either live in a Bizarro World , The Twilight Zone or the Night Gallery! Who can forget what happened in 2004?

Raf – Correct about ARod for Manny. If I remember, they had a tentative deal for Nomar too. Was it Ordonez? I believe it was a stud OFer. Can’t remember, but Nomar was going to fetch someone very pretty.

And actually, the ARod deal wasn’t s steal as much as a Lucchino head-in-asshole move followed by swift and precision move by Cashman.

But Tex WAS a steal. The Yanks only offed what? $10m more then the Sox (over 6 years). And I’m sure the Sox would have gone another $5m if that would have done the trick. But Cashman signed Tex too fast and the point was moot (or as Sam-I-Am says, ‘mute’.)

Every Yankee fans wanted Tex. No Yankee fan expected him after CC and AJ. I think Cashman had a late chance of heart and swooped in for the kill. Sure, obviously without the BIG checkbook, these deals don’t happen, but the checkbook didn’t guarantee them. Cashman did good work here.

And 2 different financial houses (one was printed in the WSJ I believe) did an assessment of the ARod deal, and both said ARod would generate money ABOVE his salary. These assessments assumed a certain amount of PS/WS time and Wins, but ARod generates runs, Wins AND publicity…. things the Steinbrenner family love. He still may be ‘overpaid’ but hey… this is what Yankee money is for.

Imagine if Babe were NOT a Yankee. Unthinkable. ARod had to be a Yankee. Let’s just hope he stays healthy so we can bash him for how long it took him to hit his 800th HR!

We paid more for Tex than any team could possibly justify spending, just like we did with CC and AJ.
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The Nationals were going to offer more $$.

FWIW, CC & AJ were signed at around their value.

Seriously, no one likes to talk about it, but how the hell can we justify a $30m/yr type contract for him through age 42?
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The breakdown, as per Cots;
08:$27M
09:$32M
10:$32M
11:$31M
12:$29M
13:$28M
14:$25M
15:$21M
16:$20M
17:$20M

And, BTW, I like the Burnett deal.

Seriously, no one likes to talk about it, but how the hell can we justify a $30m/yr type contract for him through age 42?
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Unlike most contracts, A-Rod’s isn’t backloaded. And he was absolutely worth the money every single year of his last deal, just as he was in the first year of this one.

He’ll decline, of course, but the point from which he’s declining is ridiculously high, and he’s always been healthy. Frankly, the Burnett deal seems riskier.

“Cashman stealing ARod was a decade changing deal.”

I agree that Cash did a great job to get A-Rod initially, but the Yankees still messed up by signing him to a truly ludicrous deal after he opted out. Seriously, no one likes to talk about it, but how the hell can we justify a $30m/yr type contract for him through age 42? If you thought Pavano was a waste of money, wait until the $120m we’ll be paying A-Rod for four seasons of .275/.350/.475 production.

“And now we have stolen Tex.”

We didn’t “steal” Tex like we stole A-Rod. We paid more for Tex than any team could possibly justify spending, just like we did with CC and AJ.

Imagine if ARod was their SS… playing 1/2 his games at Fenway. A 3-4-5 of Papi-ARod-Manny. Not to mention that we wouldn’t have him.
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A slight nit, but Rodriguez replaces Manny in that lineup; the deal was Rodriguez for Ramirez.

Reese/Garciaparra was their SS, & Mueller was their 3b, so you’re looking at one of them moving to 2b maybe replacing Mark Bellhorn.

People might make fun of ARod, and there are the ‘you-can’t-win-with-ARod’ idiots, but Boston fans were SALIVATING over the idea of getting Alex. SALIVATING! The Sox have had a hole at SS since they let Cabrera go. Imagine if ARod was their SS… playing 1/2 his games at Fenway. A 3-4-5 of Papi-ARod-Manny. Not to mention that we wouldn’t have him.

Cashman stealing ARod was a decade changing deal. Of course, Lucky Larry getting cheap over a few mil is what killed the deal. And now we have stolen Tex. Again, us without Tex vs. the Sox with Tex is a huge difference.

I agree the Sox have a good organization and will be battling us for a while. But Stealth Cashman’s gets of ARod and Tex have been huge.

God knows how many HRs and doubles ARod would have finishing his career at Fenway.