• Wild Thought: If A Yank Goes In The Hall, And No One Is There To See It, Does It Make A Sound?

    Posted by on January 29th, 2009 · Comments (11)

    When Joe Torre is elected to Cooperstown’s Hall of Fame as a manager – and, he will, someday…because he’ll retire with over 2,200 wins as a manager and that’s almost a lock to get into Cooperstown – will the Yankees front office attend the induction ceremonies?

    Without question, when Torre goes in, it will be as a Yankees manager – unless he goes on to win four rings in the next four to six years with the Dodgers.

    How strange will it be to see someone go into Cooperstown, as a Yankees manager, and see the Yankees boycott the ceremony? Or, will Joe and the Yankees kissy-kiss and make up by the time that day finally comes? That’s today’s wild thought.

    Comments on Wild Thought: If A Yank Goes In The Hall, And No One Is There To See It, Does It Make A Sound?

    1. Raf
      January 29th, 2009 | 2:04 pm

      I doubt that the organization would boycott the ceremonies.

    2. YankCrank
      January 29th, 2009 | 2:07 pm

      We’re still very much in the eye of the storm that was created by this book. As outraged as some Yankee fans are, 5 or 10 years from now, this book won’t matter as much. I know we’re mad now but I can’t see the book creating a long-lasting hatred towards Joe that could erase all of his accomplishments with the Yankees.

    3. January 29th, 2009 | 2:23 pm

      Dunno guys…didn’t the Yogi thing last for 14 years?

    4. MJ
      January 29th, 2009 | 2:32 pm

      I don’t know how the HoF induction stuff works. When you say the Yanks would “boycott” who do you mean? Front office guys like Gene Michael or Brian Cashman? Executives like Randy Levine or Lonn Trost? The Steinbrenner family?

      I agree with YankCrank that this will eventually blow over although I do think that it’ll be several years now before the Yanks and Torre get all “kissy-kissy.” It wouldn’t surprise me if we have another Yogi Berra type of feud/estrangement as a result of this book and the bad feelings it has created.

      Also, random question: when exactly will Torre be eligible for the Hall of Fame as a manager? Five years after his last managerial job? Assuming Torre lasts another 3-4 years in LA, that’ll put his HoF ceremony at about 9 years from now. By then he’ll be close to 80 years old and I don’t think teams and fans hold grudges against the elderly.

    5. Raf
      January 29th, 2009 | 2:38 pm

      Dunno guys…didn’t the Yogi thing last for 14 years?
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      Circumstances were a bit different, that was more a stand on principle. Even the fan reaction was/is different.

    6. January 29th, 2009 | 5:23 pm

      ~~~ when exactly will Torre be eligible for the Hall of Fame as a manager?~~~

      He already is – there’s no five year wait for MGRs. But, the Hall likes guys to be “retired” before they put them in – just to make sure they don’t have a situation, where, say, the guy is managing and then bets on baseball or something (after they let him in).

      That was part of the deal with LaSorda. When he left the Dodgers, he had to promise the Hall that he would not take another MGR somewhere – and, once he did, they let him in…IIRC it was less than 5 years after he left the Dodgers…but I would not swear to that.

    7. January 29th, 2009 | 5:24 pm

      ~~that was more a stand on principle~~

      And the Torre thing isn’t? You think Joe wrote that book because he needed the money? No. He wrote it because he felt the Yankees wronged him, plain and simple – same as the Yogi boycott.

    8. Raf
      January 29th, 2009 | 6:15 pm

      And the Torre thing isn’t? You think Joe wrote that book because he needed the money?
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      Did ARod opt out of his contract because he needed the money?

      Did Torre take the Dodgers job because he needed the money?

      After Yogi took his stance, he didn’t write a book on the Yankee organization. Torre could boycott the Yanks like Yogi did.

      You don’t think T & V’s backpedaling speaks to a stance taken on principle?

    9. January 29th, 2009 | 7:54 pm

      ~~Did ARod opt out of his contract because he needed the money?~~

      Big difference between $300 million and the few million that Torre will see from this book, no?

    10. Raf
      January 29th, 2009 | 9:31 pm

      Big difference between $300 million and the few million that Torre will see from this book, no?
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      Point is neither “needed” the money.

    11. Raf
      January 29th, 2009 | 9:35 pm

      To clarify, if this really is a stance on principle, then there really isn’t a reason for Torre to release a book “airing dirty laundry.” Especially when he can do it in so many other ways.

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