• Mussina: Torre Broke Trust, Leaves Others To Deal With It

    Posted by on February 2nd, 2009 · Comments (8)

    Via Bob Klapisch:

    In fact, Torre may never be welcomed back into the Yankee community, and that includes being honored at the Stadium — a tribute he once richly deserved.

    “Joe has started something that a lot of people are going to have to answer to,” Mike Mussina said by telephone on Thursday. “Joe’s going to have to answer to it too, but it won’t be as bad for him because he’s with the Dodgers now. But it’s going to be bad for the guys he left behind.”

    Through the excerpted passages, Torre has been systematically embarrassing the weaker figures of his clubhouses. Alex Rodriguez was called out as a coward. Kevin Brown was seen as a troubled, if not twisted soul, described as ready to leave the Yankees altogether after a bad outing at Tropicana Field. Torre didn’t stop there — he allowed readers to glimpse Randy Johnson’s anti-social behavior and mocked Carl Pavano for being universally disliked by the Yankees.

    Each one of these depictions reveals a casual, insulting quality to Torre’s personality that seems almost incomprehensible. For more than a decade, Torre won over the public not because he was a great manager, but because he was a good man. But now we ask: Is this the same man who embraced Paul O’Neill as the slugger wept in his arms after the 1999 World Series?

    Mussina said, “it’s not just what goes on in the clubhouse, it’s sitting on the bus, or if you’re out having lunch. As a ballplayer you need to know who you have to watch out for and who you can trust. First and foremost, you should be able to trust your manager.

    “I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but, didn’t Mussina have things to say, in public, about Johnson and Pavano, two years ago? And, now, it’s not allowed? Really?

    Comments on Mussina: Torre Broke Trust, Leaves Others To Deal With It

    1. February 2nd, 2009 | 11:49 pm

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s a difference here. Mussina was calling out Pavano on his performance, not his clubhouse demeanor. And he simply stated the obvious in regards to Johnson – the man didn’t look like he *ever* had a good time pitching here.

      Nothing too shocking, wouldn’t you say? The material in Torre’s book goes a bit beyond what the average fan could come up with on his/her own, as Mussina’s comments lean towards.

    2. February 2nd, 2009 | 11:56 pm

      BTW, didn’t mean to use ‘Correct me if I’m wrong’ as a sarcastic response. Call it lack of originality. 😉

    3. bfriley76
      February 3rd, 2009 | 6:23 am

      Mussina wasn’t being paid for what he said either. DOesn’t that make Torre a little worse?

    4. MJ
      February 3rd, 2009 | 9:18 am

      Mussina wasn’t being paid for what he said either. DOesn’t that make Torre a little worse?
      Agreed. Furthermore, Moose was answering a question. Torre decided to spill the beans on his former employees after the fact.

    5. February 3rd, 2009 | 1:02 pm

      But, aren’t players supposed to have each other’s backs, just like MGR’s are supposed to guard clubhouse secrets?

      Also, so Moose is not getting paid for making comments, and he’s limiting it to performance, and that makes it OK?

      So, let me get this straight…

      If Derek Jeter comes out this March and says “A-Rod is terrible on catching pop-ups and he has not come through in the clutch during the post-season in our last four post-season series” – that’s OK because Jeter is not getting any money from sharing this opinion and he’s limited it to performance and not saying anything about someone in the clubhouse or Alex’s personal life?


      No. Jeter would be roasted for not having A-Rod’s back.
      Just the same as Mussina could be slapped for talking about Pavano and Johnson.
      Just the same as Mussina wants to slap Torre for talking about Brown, et al.

    6. MJ
      February 3rd, 2009 | 1:30 pm

      No. Jeter would be roasted for not having A-Rod’s back.
      That’s already the world we live in and Jeter’s never caught the flak he so richly deserves for being an absentee teammate to A-Rod. Some captain…

    7. Goliath
      February 3rd, 2009 | 2:57 pm

      How is your scenario even the same thing as what Mussina said?

      What question did the reporter in your scenario ask Jeter? “How do you feel not being the only player to not come through in the clutch over the past 4 years?”

      Are you arguing for argument sake or do you really believe that what Torre said/has done is even in the same realm as what Mussina said in an interview?

      Teammate speaking versus a former manager writing a book? On the spot interview versus months/couple of years of putting a book together? A player known for speaking plainly versus a manger that preached silence all his time here?

    8. February 3rd, 2009 | 11:31 pm

      ~~What question did the reporter in your scenario ask Jeter? ~~

      Derek, tell us about Alex.

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