• Scout: Angel Presinal Master At Beating PED Tests

    Posted by on February 22nd, 2009 · Comments (10)

    Via the Daily News:

    According to a former baseball scout, who worked with players who trained with [Angel] Presinal in the Dominican, Presinal provided some players with steroids. The former scout declined to be named in this story but says that players refer to Presinal as “The Cleaner,” someone who can rid traces of steroids from the players’ urine before a drug test.

    “He puts them through a cycle and then they flush the body out,” the former scout said. “If you’re afraid of testing positive, this is the guy to go to.” He said players are afraid to discuss Presinal because they depend on his expertise as a trainer. It is also expensive to work with Presinal, according to the former scout, who says the trainer charges as much as $10,000 for an offseason session.

    If this is true, then shame on George Mitchell for not including Presinal, who has ties to several Red Sox players (in addition to the Yankees Alex Rodriguez), in his report to baseball on PED usage. If the Daily News is able to get the skinny on Presinal, then why not Mitchell?

    Mea Cupla, 2/22/09, 7 pm EST: I was wrong about Presinal not being in the Mitchell Report. He was mentioned in it. My apologies to Mr. Mitchell, MLB, and anyone else who my bad assumption adversely impacted.

    Comments on Scout: Angel Presinal Master At Beating PED Tests

    1. February 22nd, 2009 | 1:07 pm

      This story is growing by the day.
      This is going to make Watergate look like kid stuff

    2. thenewguy
      February 22nd, 2009 | 1:13 pm

      The kicker to all of this Presinal talk is that I cannot imagine a scenario when A-Rod is the only one to go down (if he can go further down) if Presinal is revealed to have been actively distributing steroids within the last few years (actual hard evidence: syringes, receipts, empty boxes, etc.)

      Presinal has worked with so many players, I just don’t see how A-Rod can remain the only person linked so intimately to Presinal. (In the sense that no one is saying Ortiz is a steroids user… yet.)

    3. JeremyM
      February 22nd, 2009 | 1:21 pm

      “This is going to make Watergate look like kid stuff”

      I’m not trying to be a jerk, but, a bunch of athletes cheating on drug tests compares to a President resigning in shame? Really?

    4. Tresh Fan
      February 22nd, 2009 | 1:28 pm

      It may well be that Mitchell knew of Presinal but, because of all the players connected, kept him out of the report. The implications would have been staggering. My own guesstimate is that about half of all current major leaguers have tried PEDs in one form or another.

    5. thenewguy
      February 22nd, 2009 | 2:52 pm

      My own guesstimate is that about half of all current major leaguers have tried PEDs in one form or another.
      ——

      I agree. I tend to believe people like David Segui when he says that anyone who claims to have never seen steroids, or claims to have not thought about using them, is a liar. I can’t believe when Mark Teixeira says he never heard about or saw steroid use. They seem to be so pervasive (not just in baseball but every sport.) I mean, these guys take so many supplements that border on being steroids that it isn’t exactly a wild jump to have your trainer rub the “cream” or “clear” on your muscles after a workout.

    6. roundabout7215
      February 22nd, 2009 | 3:14 pm

      Sounds like the Chickens are coming home to roost for Selig, Mitchell and MLB heirarchy. MLB should not have released a report without getting all the names of players – or at least most of them. Mitchell depending on two dealers and the feds. Amazing. Selig isolating and ripping into A-Rod (who was wrong ,but took the test during an amnesty period with more than 100 others) When it came to Bonds, Selig attending his record-tying HR and issued a statement: “Congratulations to Barry Bonds as he ties Major League’s Baseball’s home run record. No matter what anyone thinks of the controversy surrounding this event, Mr. Bonds’ achievement is noteworthy and remarkable.”

    7. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      February 22nd, 2009 | 5:09 pm

      Steve, is there a reason why you didn’t bother to look and see if Mitchell wrote about Presinal, or would that get in your way of assuming some bias in favor of the Red Sox?

      FROM THE NY TIMES:
      “In his report on the use of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, George J. Mitchell DEDICATED MORE PAGES TO ANGEL PRESINAL, a trainer based in the Dominican Republic, THAN HE DID TO ALMOST ANY OF THE DOZENS OF PLAYERS HE CITED.

      Only the details about Roger Clemens and Larry Bigbie took up more than the five pages that those concerning Presinal did in the report, a fact that underscores the concerns Major League Baseball has had about Presinal over the past decade. During much of that time, he has been barred from team clubhouses.”

      Exactly how stupid do you feel now?

    8. February 22nd, 2009 | 6:55 pm

      Pretty darn OnceIWasAYankeeFan. Thanks.

      My bad. Since I had never heard his name before the A-Rod thing, I assumed he was not in the Mitchell Report.

    9. cubster
      February 24th, 2009 | 8:38 am

      Can anyone link Sammy Sosa training to Angel Presinal? Everyone suspects Sosa but to date I haven’t seen any detail about his access to steroids.

    10. January 3rd, 2010 | 11:17 am

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