WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 3/23/09
Posted by Steve L. on March 23rd, 2009 · Comments (18)
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OK – I’ll kick off a discussion item –
Anyone worried about Worm Killer Wang this season? Or, is he a lock for 200 IP and 17-20 wins?
Another item, per Pete Abe, General Joe says that Nady would be the starter in RF if the season started today.
Discuss.
i think Wang is going to show people he’s not just a number 2 or 3…if he can get his slider going like he did early on last year, and he can command both sides of the plate with both breaking pitches (slider/sinker) theres really no ceiling for him…
i have a feeling they’ll run nady out there to showcase him for the deadline hoping he tears the cover off the ball so that they can trade him in july for whatever piece they need
Another item, per Pete Abe, General Joe says that Nady would be the starter in RF if the season started today.
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Not surprised. I think it’s obvious that the team is better off with Swish in RF every day instead of Nady (we’ve discussed this and statistically shown proof many times), but it’s not like they’re starting Melky over Swish. Damon will need days off or spend time on the DL, Melky and Gardner won;t be in there every day, in so many words Swish will get his at bats whether he starts or not.
I just really, really hope when Joe says he “needs to get Swish at bats” he does a better job of it when he had the same approach with Shelley Duncan last season.
To add to that, it is kind of frustrating. If Nady is the leader because of what he did last year, than was there ever even a battle going on?
if nady doesn’t get at bats, how can you trade him in july? Essentially he’s a 1 trick pony in the field and it’s a lot harder to showcase him if he’s not playing everyday. Swish u can mix him in the other positions at least. I think the yanks are lookin at the big picture with this, and see the tradeoff (Nady’s bat vs. Swishers bat) as not that big of a deal in comparison to maybe being able to land that last piece in july and then being able to use swish everyday…i dunno i would do the same thing
Steve Lombardi wrote:
For the life of me I can’t figure out why Girardi would pick Nady over Swisher. I thought Girardi was a stats guy and a big reader of the baseball think-tank scholarship out there. Why would you relegate the better offensive and defensive player (and switch hitter) to bench duty?
Girardi has a lot of Torre in him, I’m afraid…
and if they end up trading nady for a piece, would you still have gripes with the decision to put him as starting RF? not much trade value in a bench player who has 1 pos
Corey wrote:
Everyone can be traded for a piece so it shouldn’t matter if they’re starting or not. The Yanks should want to put their best 8 position players out there, not their 7 best and their best trade chip.
If Swisher is better than Nady then winning ballgames — not showcasing a player for a trade — is what they should be focused on.
Does Swisher really offer that much more than Nady? So much more that anyone should really care that the Yankees go with Nady over him? I don’t see it.
http://tinyurl.com/dgv3sb
What do you guys think about this story?
“The New York Yankees have been looking for a cheap third baseman to fill the void of Alex Rodriguez, who is out until at least May after undergoing hip surgery. Various reports are suggesting the Yanks interest in Baker.
The Rockies could acquire Colorado native Mark Melancon, a pitching prospect who went a combined 8-1 in the minors last year between high A ball and AAA.”
I wouldnt want to give up Melancon for Baker..any thoughts?
Jeff Baker’s lifetime BA/OBA/SLG outside of Colorado: .216/.278/.356
Pass.
Everyone can be traded for a piece so it shouldn’t matter if they’re starting or not. The Yanks should want to put their best 8 position players out there, not their 7 best and their best trade chip.
If Swisher is better than Nady then winning ballgames — not showcasing a player for a trade — is what they should be focused on.
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well wouldn’t you rather trade nady than swisher? I get your thought though, that the yanks should put the best team on the field and not worry about showcasing players, but my response to that is pretty much what steve said :
“Does Swisher really offer that much more than Nady?So much more that anyone should really care that the Yankees go with Nady over him? I don’t see it.” <– i agree
Idk if Steve and Corey are asking me about the Swish thing so i’ll just answer anyway.
I can see why Girardi would make this decision. All things considered, both Swish and Nady are having interesting springs. Swish has shown an ability to get on base but hit and slug with little power (until recently) and Nady has hit with some power but with a very little ability to get on base. If he wants to hand the job to Nady because of his performance for the Yanks last year (which wasn’t that great, he had a hot start and cooled off fast) than he can do it.
But over time we’ll see the two players play and chances are they will gravitate back to their career norms. At that point, it’ll be hard to justify sitting the guy who hits for more power, gets on base more often and plays better defense than the other guy.
Especially since what he did for the Yankees last year wasn’t particularly great.
O.K., I need some Yankees fans luck here.
I have tickets for the April 3rd and 4th games against the Cubs at the new Stadium. And, I had my plans all set up to attend both games. Then, about 5 weeks ago, I was told that I needed to travel down to Texas, for work, on April 1st through the 3rd. Major bummer.
Still, I held on to the April 3rd ticket because I wanted to think long and hard on who to offer it to – it being such a special game and all.
And, now, today, I found out that there’s a chance – albeit very, very, slim, that my trip to Texas may be postponed. If so, that would free me up to attend the game on April 3rd.
I’m sure glad that I didn’t offer that ticket away, yet. Think positive for me fellow zealots. I could use all the collective good mojo that I can get on this one….
ooo man i hope your work doesn’t call cause that’ll be such an awesome time…hell i want you to go cause i know you’ll take pictures lol
Thanks – based on a meeting that I had at 6, it’s looking better than slim that it may break my way…