Oh, I almost forgot Cash Man decided to concentrate on drafting pitching because he already had older/elder statesman master hitters.
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You may want to take a closer look at their drafting history

Point is that spending is relative. I hear too much “z0mG, 200M!!!1!!1!!1one!1!!!” without any discussion as to how the payroll is broken down. No one points out that the Yanks have assumed contracts given by the Dodgers (Kevin Brown), Rangers (Rodriguez) or Phillies (Bobby Abreu). That tells me that people are just parroting the company line without giving it any thought. Which is fine, if they’re into that sort of thing. I happen not to be

So lets give the Tigers another 70 million… So what? Who will they spend it on? They were in the Pavano chase too. It has been shown that he was a bum. He would’ve been a bum with the Tigers.

Take away the “megabucks” and the Yanks will be right there with the rest of the other teams. Because that’s what they’ve done. That’s what they’ve always done. They’ve bought, players that’s nothing new. They’ve taken on salaries from other teams, that’s nothing new.

Without CC, AJ & Teix, they won 89 games. They didn’t win more because of a spate of injuries. How many teams can lose 3/5th of their starting rotation, and 1/3 of their lineup and still win as many games as they did? Who’s to say they won’t move the young pitching to fill whatever holes they have? Who’s to say that Hughes and Kennedy won’t get another shot? Do you think the organization is going to give up on them after a handful of innings?

Raf wrote:

If the Tigers were able to spend an extra 70 mill last year God know who else they could have afforded take that into the equation, as well.
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Well their payroll jumped from $95M to $138M, doesn’t that count for something?
The Royals have more money to play with, it doesn’t negate the stupid moves that they’ve made. We can talk about teams that have spent, and haven’t done squat (1993 Mets, anyone?)
If it were just about spending money, more teams would do it.

Raf, teh Tigers weren’t spending Yankee money which is 210 million plus! Give them an extra 70 on top of the 132 mill and then we can talk. I don’t know that the Royals are an apropos example,I don’t know that they are relevant to the argument since they spend so little relative to the Yankees to begin with. perhaps it would be Tampa vs Pittsburgh. Look at how bad both teams have been and which one has become a force in the toughest division in baseball and which one is still in the JV. That might be a case of wise management without big money and having access to revenue sharing etc.

Raf, one more thing most teams can’t do it! Most teams don’t have the resources that the Yanks have in YES and the new stadium. The Royals can’t just spend 200 mill a year because they would be losing tons of money. And in that market, they couldn’t even sustain a Royal’s owned regional sports network(RSTN) featuring the Royals either. Trust me Raf, take away the mega bucks from the Yankee payroll nad that team is not in the same conversation with the best teams in baseball. If the Yanks had to subtract CC, AJ, and Teix from this mix, I shudder to think what kind of team they would field this year……..

If the Tigers were able to spend an extra 70 mill last year God know who else they could have afforded take that into the equation, as well.
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Well their payroll jumped from $95M to $138M, doesn’t that count for something?

The Royals have more money to play with, it doesn’t negate the stupid moves that they’ve made. We can talk about teams that have spent, and haven’t done squat (1993 Mets, anyone?)

If it were just about spending money, more teams would do it.

Raf wrote:

Been there, said that, on this one Raf.
From 1998 through 2001, Cashman rode the team that Stick and Watson built. Com’on, you know that.
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But if Cashman’s an incompetent boob of a GM that can’t evaluate pitching to save his life, don’t you think the Yanks would’ve missed the playoffs sooner than 10 years later?
Fact is, they may have built the team, but it doesn’t take long to fall from grace, as we can see with the current edition of the Detroit Tigers

Interesting point BUT as I’ve said about what money Detroit spends and what NY spends is a great chasm. If Detroit, could spend more money on drafting and on premium free agents they could hide their mistakes as well. If the Tigers were able to spend an extra 70 mill last year God know who else they could have afforded take that into the equation, as well.

Cash Man deserves some credit,but he is the arcitect of the 2008 Yankees and they didn’t make it to October. Give another GM like Colletti and Sabean(another two who I don’t like) and give them 200 mill a year to play around with and see what they can do on that payroll.It’s not so much Cash Man’s incompetence(though that’s part of it)rather his results. He’s had time to put his imprint without the benefit of Tampa’s involvement and what has happened? Not only no World Series wins BUT no playoffs last year…..and how many times did the Yankees spend 200 mill a year during the last five years?

Been there, said that, on this one Raf.

From 1998 through 2001, Cashman rode the team that Stick and Watson built. Com’on, you know that.
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But if Cashman’s an incompetent boob of a GM that can’t evaluate pitching to save his life, don’t you think the Yanks would’ve missed the playoffs sooner than 10 years later?

Fact is, they may have built the team, but it doesn’t take long to fall from grace, as we can see with the current edition of the Detroit Tigers

Oh, I almost forgot Cash Man decided to concentrate on drafting pitching because he already had older/elder statesman master hitters.
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I really hope you’re joking when you say this. You honestly believe he focussed on pitching in the draft because he felt he already had enough hitters at the major league level? Did I read that wrong?

Steve Lombardi wrote:

Raf wrote:
Cashman’s been the GM since 1998…
Been there, said that, on this one Raf.
From 1998 through 2001, Cashman rode the team that Stick and Watson built. Com’on, you know that.

True, but Cash Man made slight tweaks here and there like El Duque, Soriano, and Clemens that didn’t hurt their winning ways but did help to a certain degree. And this is coming from the Cash Man hater supreme! Stick and Bob, laid the foundations for the 98 team and that can’t be denied though. After 2001,it is a different story altogether though.Last year, where were the kids to come up and shore up the offense? Oh, I almost forgot Cash Man decided to concentrate on drafting pitching because he already had older/elder statesman master hitters.

From 1998 through 2001, Cashman rode the team that Stick and Watson built. Com’on, you know that.
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Cashman traded for Knoblauch, Clemens and Justice. It’s not like did NOTHING to the team he inherited from Stick and Watson. People like to think that the 1998-2000 World Series titles were inevitable but there’s no telling how things might’ve gone if not for those three acquisitions.

Hold it against Cashman all you want that he was promoted to the job after Bob Watson left but the fact remains that he WAS the GM during that time and he made proactive moves to improve the ballclub.

Raf wrote:

Cashman’s been the GM since 1998…

Been there, said that, on this one Raf.

From 1998 through 2001, Cashman rode the team that Stick and Watson built. Com’on, you know that.