WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 4/16/09
Posted by Steve L. on April 16th, 2009 · Comments (17)
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Nice stat from Mark Feinsand to put things in perspective:
We all know that Chien-Ming Wang has allowed 15 runs in his first two starts, but do you know who the last Yankees pitcher was that gave up 15 or more runs in his first two starts of a season?
It was David Cone. The year? 1998.
For those that may not remember, Cone was 0-1 with a 14.90 ERA after those two dismal starts, though the Yankees managed to win one of them in a 17-13 slugfest against the A’s. Cone went on to finish the season 20-7 with a 3.55 ERA, leading the American League in wins.
I saw that stat for Coney on Yes. Once again it’s a case of apples and oranges really. I’m very worried about Wang because it seems like a mental/lack of confidence issue. Though Kay keeps on claiming that the Yankees are not in love with Wang that is why he is nickeled and dimed when he resigns anyway. I hope the Wanger gets his crap together BUT his psyche seems wounded big time after his latest debacle at the newly christened Cowbell Dome.
I just him to bring it over the plate. He was throwing way too many balls and walking too many on Monday.
Once again it’s a case of apples and oranges really.
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True, as evidenced by each pitcher’s k/9. I’m not quite worried about Wang yet, trending numbers be damned.
anyone else notice in Wang’s last start that hes not hittin the ball into his mit twice before he delivers? maybe that was his timing mechanism and its lost now…altho, that could just be me watching the games WAY to closely…
to maybe clarify better…what im referring to happens during his delivery…last year (and years prior) as he was coming home he’d punch the mit with the ball twice as he was moving forward before reaching back and throwing
I did notice it..I think its also his nerves due to the bad pitching
yea but he wasnt doin that from the start of the first game…u cant have nerves from bad pitching on the first pitch of the year coming off an OK st
lol ransom is playing so bad they might keep pena and DFA him
We’ve had waaaaay too many chances with RISP today. Should be at least 5-1. I am glad that Jorgie got first HR though.
im not watchin the game atm, i will when i get home tho(love dvr)…btw, is anyone else sick of seeing veras?feels like we have so many better options now…
After today, I could do without Veras and Marte for a looooong time
Well stevo, I was there too today, and my total commute was probably about half of yours one way. I know how disappointed/disgusted I am right now witnessing that embarassment live, and can’t imagine how you are feeling given what I just read in your last post. Hope you’re having one of your favorite meals for dinner or something, anything to take a little sting out of this one.
Corey and clint, couldn’t be more with you. The strength of this pen is not the individual pieces – sans the obvious and looking like bruney as well – but the depth of power arms. With the volatility of relievers, when one is stinking the joint out like veras and marte are now, time to demote (veras) and bump down the depth chart (marte) while giving someone else a go. Robertson is hopefully here to stay and I don’t know how long you can wait on melancon the way things are going.
Look is it too early to panic? Yes and no. Are Marte/Veras the modern day equivalents of Stanton/Nelson , not quite. This whole debate about the pen will have people questioning the logic of Joba in the starting rotation again. I believe that Joba should only be utilized in the BP IF MO goes down in injury. Otherwise, the opportunity cost of not having Joba in the roation would be large. I’d much rather see Joba in the SR than the Hughes/Kennedy experiment this year……
Pat F wrote:
Two Portobello Mushroom Cheese Burgers on Whole Wheat Buns. And, they were great. Still, I’m going to have nightmares tonight about Veras and Marte…
Were those shrooms baked or grilled?
Grilled.