• Gardner Joins 50/65 Club

    Posted by on April 28th, 2009 · Comments (10)

    Via Baseball-Reference.com, Yankees, since 1973, through last night’s game, where they had an OPS+ <= 50 and PA >= 65 in their post-1972 Yankees career:

    Rk	Player	       OPS+	PA	From	To	Ages
    1	Paul Zuvella	-15	93	1986	1987	27-28
    2	Wil Nieves	-5	76	2005	2007	27-29
    3	Albe. Gonzalez	 5	73	2007	2008	24-25
    4	Rex Hudler	12	66	1984	1985	23-24
    5	Brian Doyle	18	171	1978	1980	23-25
    6	Johnny Callison	21	142	1973	1973	34-34
    7	Brad Gulden	32	108	1979	1980	23-24
    8	Morgan Ensberg	34	80	2008	2008	32-32
    9	Mike Fischlin	35	116	1986	1986	30-30
    10	Todd Greene	36	100	2001	2001	30-30
    11	Damaso Garcia	36	82	1978	1979	23-24
    12	Scott Bradley	40	73	1984	1985	24-25
    13	Johnny Oates	40	95	1980	1981	34-35
    14	Ed Brinkman	40	68	1975	1975	33-33
    15	Hal Lanier	40	90	1973	1973	30-30
    16	Andy Fox		42	259	1996	1997	25-26
    17	Jerry Narron	44	136	1979	1979	23-23
    18	Jimmy Wynn	44	92	1977	1977	35-35
    19	Juan Espino	46	78	1982	1986	26-30
    20	Scott Pose	47	96	1997	1997	30-30
    21	Brett Gardner	48	206	2008	2009	24-25
    22	Tony Womack	50	351	2005	2005	35-35
    

    Worse than Womack. Ouch.

    Comments on Gardner Joins 50/65 Club

    1. MJ
      April 28th, 2009 | 3:41 pm

      While I’m certainly no big fan of Gardner’s — if it looks like a 4th OF and has MiLB stats that look like a 4th OF, chances are it’s a 4th OF — I won’t give up on him this soon. He still deserves a bit more time since, after all, it’s only April 28th.

      Having said that, I’m pretty sure that those of us who view him as a 4th OF will be vindicated. He’s just not nearly good enough offensively to get AB’s. If a fast kid can’t get on base with any regularity, his speed is practically useless. Carlos Gomez or Wily Taveras (both of whom are better than Gardner, unfortunately) seem to bear that out.

    2. April 28th, 2009 | 3:59 pm

      I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…

    3. Raf
      April 28th, 2009 | 4:16 pm

      I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…
      ————
      Given MiL numbers, he’s more like Tyner than Butler;

      BB:.338 .461/.452
      JT:.300 .365/.353

      BG:.291 .389/.385

    4. tampayankeefan
      April 28th, 2009 | 5:08 pm

      Give this guy a break Clueless Joe is playing yo-yo with hios batting position and playing time. The Yankees are very guilty of this latley where they give the young talent no time to become better and then when they give them the one chance they do so-so and then the orginaization goes “see he sucks” and ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener. The Yanks will never win a championship doing this you need youth to win a World Series, that is why they have not one one in 8 years and counting.
      Would you suggest we get rid of Texeria he is batting .220?

    5. MJ
      April 29th, 2009 | 8:42 am

      ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener.
      ——–
      Jay Buhner? Um…he was a power hitter. How could you confuse Brett Gardner — he of the .750 MiLB OPS — with a power hitter?

    6. Raf
      April 29th, 2009 | 9:57 am

      Besides, Buhner was a RH bat, of which the Yanks had plenty of; Slaught, Henderson, Randolph, Winfield & Clark. The Yanks wanted a LH power bat, which they thought they were getting in Phelps.

      Anyway, Buhner didn’t become a FT starter until 1991, some 3 years after the trade was made, so if he didn’t go in the Phelps trade, he probably would’ve went in another trade.

    7. April 29th, 2009 | 10:03 am

      How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?

      December 20, 1984: Buhner was traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Dale Berra and Alfonso Pulido to the New York Yankees for Tim Foli, Steve Kemp and cash.

    8. Raf
      April 29th, 2009 | 10:06 am

      How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?
      ————
      That’s a question I’ve asked on several occasions. Couple of times here, as a matter of fact.

    9. bfriley76
      April 29th, 2009 | 10:15 am

      Come on…if Frank Costanza says it’s a bad trade, it’s a bad trade:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8

    10. YankCrank
      April 29th, 2009 | 10:25 am

      hahaha, i love that clip bfriley

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